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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:32 AM
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Poll question: DUers in open primary states: Would you consider crossing over to vote for Bachmann for nomination?
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 09:36 AM by jefferson_dem
Since polls indicate Bachmann would be a much easier target for Obama to squash in the General Election, it's time to start thinking about strategic voting. ...You know, a little "Operation Chaos" of our own.

I ask DUers in open primary states: Would you consider crossing over to vote for Bachmann for nomination?

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:36 AM
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1. We work hard to encourage our KS Dems NOT to ever register as a Republican
The state GOP uses those numbers to boast about their strength.

Full disclosure - I used to do this. I would be a republican for a day, vote in their primaries and then change back to Democrat. Even before we could do it online, it was an easy process here in KS. But I would never do it again. We're in a numbers battle now.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:38 AM
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3. I hear you.
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 09:39 AM by jefferson_dem
States have different electoral requirements. We have a totally open primary in Georgia - no party registration required. I can vote in either primary simply by picking whichever ballot I want.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 10:51 AM
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11. Yes but some states have open elections - so you can stay a dem but vote repub in primaries
It's a tactic that has been used in many states with open primaries. Back in 2002, Republicans targetted Cynthia McKinney by crossing-over and voting for her opponent in the primaries.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 01:22 PM
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17. I know that
But like I said, we are discouraging that here in Kansas.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:36 AM
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2. no because if she became president, i would then be partly responsible
:eyes:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:40 AM
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4. You are absolutely right. You don't play with the voting system /nt
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 03:23 PM
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19. I'm getting in this line
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 10:10 AM
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5. Even if I lived in an open primary state - no.
I am determined to throw my primary vote away on PROGRESSIVE Dems.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 10:22 AM
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6. I don't because voting in a Republican primary has consequences
in Democratic related actions. Such as running for State or National Convention Delegate. Precinct committee person. Running for office. etc.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 10:27 AM
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7. Hell no. Obama is as far to the right and as opposed to my rights
as I will ever vote. The idea of voting Republican is to me like the notion of eating some human flesh, just a vile and disgusting thought. I understand that for the 'moderate centrists' she is just a hair to the right of them, but for actual Democrats, she is very far from anything we'd consider.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 10:34 AM
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9. Haha!
You're a real hoot! Always a shit-stirrer.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 10:31 AM
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8. Democrats need to stop playing by prissy rules because Republicans don't,
they do what they need to do in order to win.

I live in Wisconsin and we have an open primary. We are not required to register as either a Democrat or Republican or anything else. I may legally vote in our primary for a Republican candidate and since there is no race on the Democratic side (for those in touch with reality there is no race) I will likely do that.

Sure it's gamesmanship, but the Republicans do not hesitate to use it. Here in Wisconsin they ran fake Democrats against our recall candidate because they could legally do so. Democrats need to stop fighting using nicey-nice Marquis of Queensbury rules while the Republicans are employing street fighting tactics.

We need to be smarter and better than the Republicans and be able to anticipate their moves and to think moves ahead. But as long as something is legal to do in order to win I have no problem in doing it.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 10:50 AM
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10. No, there's already enough bullshit and gamesmanship in electoral politics.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 10:53 AM
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12. I voted 'Other' since I'm in a state with a closed primary
And in Delaware we'd like to keep it that way forever and ever. A closed primary meant only the republicans could vote in the primaries which helped propel nut-job Christine O'Donnell over Mike Castle. Had Castle won the primaries he would have easily won Joe Biden's old senate seat because Castle is so fricking popular (and moderate). Instead, thanks to the high number of nutty teabagging idiots in slower Delaware, we had O'Donnell on the ticket and Chris Coons coasted to a 17point win.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 10:58 AM
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13. I voted "other"
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 10:58 AM by okasha
because if there is an actual liberal on the Democratic primary ballot, I will be voting for that person.

Edit: Hell, make that an actual Democrat.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 11:17 AM
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14. They would stamp "Republican" on my voter card. NEVAH!!!
Let the Repukes do what they will. They have NO viable options. None.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 11:40 AM
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15. No. Never underestimate the power of American stupid.
This country elected Reagan, twice, then elected Bush Sr., then elected Dubya, TWICE (OK, those two elections were asterisks, but I can make a point that enough millions voted for Bush to at least make it close enough to steal.)

We do not want Michele Bachmann as president. We do not want that fundie in the White House with her finger on the nuclear button saying "Tell me when, Lord! Tell me when! Let me be Your servant, Lord!" And yes, there are enough stupids in this country to make it possible to put her in the White House if things swing right far enough.
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21st Century FDR Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 12:53 PM
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16. Not unless every last electronic "voting" machine is destroyed first.
Making sure the Republican nominee is either visibly crazy or stupid (Bachmann is both) is no longer a guarantee of Democratic victory.

Reagan was an absent minded clown, but he got elected, and that was way before the machines.
Chimpy was a complete imbecile, was NOT elected either time, and managed to occupy the White House for 8 years anyway.

Add unrestrained media bullshit via Citizens United to the mix, and Batshit Bachmann (and First Lady Marcus) is entirely all too real of a possibility. :scared:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 02:18 PM
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18. No. If anything, i would cross over to vote for Paul, as it would shift the debate dramatically.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 03:38 PM
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20. I'm in Iowa and NO friggin way.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:10 AM
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21. I'm registered unaffiliated in NC and can vote in either big-party primary.
So... maybe. I have voted in the R primary here before when their slate was in a similar state of disarray.

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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:59 AM
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22. No, cheating is for losers
We have our primary and they have theirs. Let real Republicans pick who they want.
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