Who do you think it's going to be? TX Gov Perry or Fmr MA Gov Romney (it's gotta be 1 of 'em)

[Divine Discontent]

Romney has been sailing along with little to no real challenge from these goofballs running against him (President Santorum anyone?)

Perry is going to tout job creation and he's got experience leading a large state for more than 2 terms (he can argue he didn't cut n' run like Palin if she dared enter their fray, which she won't, especially if right-wing conservative Perry enters).
I also believe if it comes down to Perry vs Romney, Mitt's religion is going to matter. Oh, and there's that little thing about "appearance" (because Repub voters rarely care about substance) and Rick more-so resembles Reagan, comes from Texas, and is brashly nauseating in his absoluteness! Repub primary voters will eat that sh*t up.







From Daily Kos - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/11/984230/-The-Rick-Perry-You-Never-Knew


#1 - Perry knowingly allowed the Execution of an Innocent person for a non-existent crime
#2 - Perry is against the 16th and 17th Amendments - and would like to repeal them (income tax, and, rights to elect senators)
#3 - Perry wants to let States Opt-Out of Social Security and Medicaid
#4 Under Gov Perry, Texas has the highest rate of uninsured individuals in the country, while Perry claims "Texas has the best Health Care in the World"
#5 Texas has become the Nations Largest Polluter while Perry has sued to EPA to relax it's rules
#6 Stimulus hypocrite(Texas debt has doubled under Perry, Perry rejected Obama's stimulus, but took advantage of gov't loans for 2 billion highway work - my words)

"From the perspective of anyone in the Democratic Party, or even an independent, this guy is a Nightmare. At least George W. Bush actually did have a fairly moderate record as Governor of Texas, and a history of working across partisan lines to find common solutions. He was a Stealth Wing-Nut as it turned out who hadn't yet revealed his true nature which his short stint in the Governor's Chair, but with Perry - it's all out there for everyone to see."

[Jack Rabbit]

1. One more time . . .

The Republicans' best chance to take down Obama rests in Mitt Romney. Most voters won't go for an extremist who isn't sure whether he's running of President of the United States or of the Republic of Texas.

However, the Koch Brother$, with their Birch Society heritage, will probably anoint Perry.

[Divine Discontent]

2. yep. If Koch Bro$ get behind Perry, it's a done deal. They'll go after Mitt as lib-lite if they

want Perry.

Thanks

[Vogon_Glory]

6. I Think The Republican Nominee Is Likely to Be Michelle Bachmann

I think the Republican nominee is likely to be Michelle Bachmann. Romney's too sane for the wing-nuts and his Mormon faith brings out the best in Evangelical/Fundamentalist bigotry.

We MIGHT get the happy situation where a Republican nominee is too regional (Perry on the one hand, Romney on the other) or is too dingbat crazy for the rest of the electorate (Perry, Bachmann). Wouldn't that be nice?

:evilgrin:

[Jack Rabbit]

12. If it's Bachmann, Obama will win with a sweep 50 states and DC

Same with Palin or Santorum.

Perry will carry the Republic of Texas and then name himself president thereof.

[Joe Bacon]

29. I've said all along it will be Jeb Bush.

Bachman will win Iowa, come close in New Hampshire to Romney, then Bachman wins South Carolina and draws with Romney in Nevada. There will be a royal bloodletting between them. Newt and Tiny TIm may pick up some delegates too. Nobody will come into the convention with a majority. The party bosses will meet in the smokehouse and draft Jeb as the "compromise candidate"...

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

7. Why Mitt? Surely he's going to have trouble explaining why he lost jobs in MA.

Surely he's going to have severe problems in the GOP primary for his flip flops on a host of issues.

[Jack Rabbit]

17. Ok, Mitt may be the worst candidate they've got -- except for all the others

He may flip flop on every issue, but at least he does it in coherent sentences.

[CrazyBob]

25. dupe - nt

[jimmyflint]

3. I think instead of a primary they should have a MMA cage match.

It could be the first republican national cage match and monster truck rally, sponsored by warmongers and outsourcing corporations. Palin,Paul,Bachman,Romney,and texas-Rick all clad in American flag G-string bikinis. There would be spitting,screeching,hair pulling,scratching,slapping. While mitt texas-rick did that, old mama Griz could bust a folding chair over ron Paul's head as he chokes out bachman. I look forward to seeing it on pay-per-view for $9.95+ a free popcorn coupon.

:rofl:

[beac]

15. I would SO buy a ticket to that show!

:rofl:

[provis99]

4. Bachmann is beating Romney in the polls and Perry ain't running.

[polichick]

5. Plus, God is running her campaign.

[Hippo_Tron]

9. People are laughing at the idea that Bachmann could win, but I think she has a shot

Party insiders can try to influence voters but they don't always succeed. Christine O'Donnell beating Mike Castle is a prime example of this.

[Hawkowl]

21. I think she will win the nomination

If you are an old school moderate republican, in the vein of Ike or Gerald Ford, you have already left the party and are pretty comfortable with Obama.

I think Bachman capitalizes on what's left of the old GOP crazies and captures the nomination. No way she wins the general election, but she won't lose in an absolute blowout--that's what is scary. She will win more than a few states, but the result should finish off the Republican party.

[golfguru]

11. Plus Politico has an article about her

hiring some really good (per Politico) staff.

[Sportsguy]

8. I Think There's Someone Waiting To Announce Yet

I don't think the eventual republican nominee is an official candidate yet. Just a gut feeling I have, and no I don't think it's Palin. I have no idea who it is, but I don't think it's anyone who has declared their candidacy yet.

[boxman15]

10. The GOP's only shot at the White House is Romney.

And even then, Obama is still the favorite. If the GOP elite was smart, they'd advocate for Romney and get people out there to vote for him.

But, I'm anticipating someone like Bachmann or Perry getting the nomination because Romney is too "moderate."

[Divine Discontent]

13. I agree with ya... Mitt's truly less offensive than Rick. Whereas part of me wants Mittens to be

their nominee, because he will keep the issues centrist and left somewhat, he also poses a threat to being the winner... But can we stand to listen to Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann for a year??? ICK.


Worse, can you believe people actually gave Bachmann FOUR MILLION DOLLARS this past quarter? Talk about scary. Crazy folks...

[cloudythescribbler]

24. I'd rather listen to them than see Romney elected. Could Perry Win?

[Politicalboi]

14. I still think Palin is going to run

My guess is she is waiting for Bachmann's flaming husband to be outed, and I wouldn't be surprised if Palin does the exposing. She fights dirty.

[beac]

16. "Nobody beats The Griz!"

At least that's what Snow Snooki thinks in her tiny frozen mind.

[Ter]

18. Somehow I don't think running on repealing the 16th will hurt him

n/t

[GreenStormCloud]

19. A TX Gov. can't halt an execution, he can only delay it for 30 days, and only once. N/T

[GreenStormCloud]

20. Perry will have the NRA backing him. Romney will be opposed by them.

Perry is very solidly pro-RKBA. He has a CHL (Texas version of CCW) and carries a Ruger LCP.

Romney supported the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban and still does. Gun voters will be against him.

[21st Century FDR]

22. Depends on which one gets the blessing of the Bush Crime Family.

Perry was the Chimp's hand picked replacement in Texas. Poppy and Jeb were behind Willard in 2008.

Every Republican president since 1952 has been chosen by the Bush Crime Family. The only candidates who didn't play for their team were Bob Dole and John McCain.

We definitely know that Poppy and Babs are NOT fans of the Moose Lady!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TNVB3SgyX8

[AtomicKitten]

23. Perry closed down his path to the WH with talk of secession.

Plus Perry is at odds with the Bushies. I still think it will be Romney because of the GOP's utter lack of imagination.

[21st Century FDR]

28. That means nothing

Wackjobs in Texas were talking seccession when Chimpy was "governor" in the 1990's.

And Moosealini was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party (seccessionist) for fucks sake. She sent videotaped speeches to their convention/crossburning while governor of Alaska.

[AtomicKitten]

30. That won't play well outside of Texas.

The Democrats could get a lot of mileage out of it.

[CrazyBob]

26. Neither of the above

Romney is a non-starter with the tea baggers. He's Mormon. He supported health care reforms. And he was pro-choice.

And Perry is on record supporting secession.

Once the campaign starts for real, neither of these guys will last.

[cloudythescribbler]

27. Anybody out there think the Democrats'd be STRENGTHENED re:2012 elections by contested primaries?

It could put some interest in campaign and extract some serious concrete pluses from Democratic platform in 2012

but someone well-known has to run -- answering a pull