Obama bypassing Warren for consumer bureau, officials say. When will he learn that

[Cal33]

even if he gives in to the GOP 100% of the time, it won't be enough? They will still want
his head. And the same thing would apply to any other president who is not one of their own.
It's nothing personal. They just want to take over our country and turn it over into a
dictatorship. Nothing less will satisfy them.

So now Obama is willing to sacrifice Elizabeth Warren. To what purpose? Is he still stuck
on his bipartisanship idea? Doesn't he see that there never will be any genuine bipartisanhip
with the Neocons -- not ever, because they simply never could accept it. It's in the nature
of their psychopathic leaders to be the way they are, and they can't help being the way they
are. Nor can they ever change. One of the signs of the psychopath is the authoritarian
nature of their personality. They don't want a democracy. They want a dictatorship -- with
themselves as the masters, of course.


And Obama continues to alienate the base that was very supportive of him not long ago. To
what purpose? He needs to consult with some mental health professionals, expert in the area
of psychopathy, and gain some knowledge on how to deal with psychopaths. And he needs it
badly, because our nation has never ever been closer to becoming a dictatorship as we are now.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/07/16/obama_bypassing_warren_for_consumer_bureau_officials_say/

[blkmusclmachine]

1. Collusion.

[bhikkhu]

24. Or not. "Warren declines post" would also be accurate

While she would likely have done the job - and done it well - if appointed, she had made it clear she didn't want it.

[Jakes Progress]

28. I've got a gold mine to sell you, cheap.

But, honest, the people who had it before just didn't like gold. They just want to walk away.

Are you that gullible?

[Evergreen Emerald]

29. It was part of the deal with republicans...

I believe that the reason the republicans are going to agree to a debt ceiling raise, and why they have backtracked of late from their solid stance was because of a deal made with Obama.

I also believe that last year when Obama capitulated on Bush's tax increase was also due to a deal he made with the republicans.

It is a shame. Warren would have helped make the changes we could believe in.

[OHdem10]

2. Wall St and CofC won on this one. They are fighting any regulation

and they certainly do not want a person with the character
to do the right thing any where to enforce rules.

[Cal33]

3. And the ultimate goal of the right-wingers is to turn this country into a dictatorship, isn't it?

This make them traitors, doesn't it? Obama doesn't see that he is giving in
to and trying to appease traitors. He doesn't see that it can never work out
to the benefit of our nation.

It's about time somebody called a spade a spade.

[roxiejules]

19. Without being free to commit fraud

the financial industry would not be able to make the profits it wants to make. Any honest banker should be taking to the streets and the airwaves to speak out against this GOP lynching.

[madmom]

4. I've heard that she doesn't want it,what is he supposed to do ,force her to take it?

[Cal33]

5. This is the first time I've read that Elizabeth Warren doesn't want the job. It's news to me.

[babylonsister]

6. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1500077

[roxiejules]

10. Not willing to ruffle the banks

http://articles.boston.com/2011-07-14/bostonglobe/29774296_1_consumer-financial-protection-bureau-setti-warren-elizabeth-warren


This should be Obama’s fight. Yet once Republicans cast Warren as anti-business, the president was afraid to play his strongest hand.

“Did (the White House) squander an opportunity to make the Elizabeth Warren nomination a defining battle? Big time,’’ said one Senate Democratic adviser who is close to the Warren drama.

The president “hasn’t been willing to spend the political capital to fight for her,’’ added Theresa Amato, executive director of Citizens Works, a nonprofit consumer protection agency founded by Ralph Nader.

Warren’s supporters are now trying to convert prospective political loss in Washington into a Senate campaign in Massachusetts. On paper, her candidacy would attract women, liberals, and money from both constituencies, locally and nationally.




http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/business/economy/05wa... - NYT 7/4/11


"People outside the agency who speak often with Ms. Warren say they believe she still wants the job.

Only President Obama can decide if Ms. Warren is his choice for director, and for months he has said nothing about it. Mr. Obama has said he has great respect for Ms. Warren and her advocacy for consumers, but he has appeared unwilling to wage a battle with the Senate to actually nominate her to direct the new bureau."

[Tx4obama]

20. There are TONS of OPs/comments all over DU regarding Warren not wanting the position.

Try the GD section.
There is also an OP in GD about Warren having a husband, so that is probably one of the reasons she doesn't want to move to DC permanently and leave her husband behind.

[former9thward]

21. Tons of "comments" but nothing from her.

[great white snark]

7. Unrec for the "gives in to the GOP 100% of the time" bald faced lie.

She never wanted the job.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/16/warren-didnt-want-permane_n_719932.html

[Cal33]

12. Go back and read the OP again. I said "...EVEN IF Obama gives in 100% of the time...."

[treestar]

8. What is it with the obsession with this woman?

Furthermore, the Republicans control the House. It makes no sense to expect the Republicans to have no influence. The voters chose that they should.

[Cal33]

13. The American people are continually being cheated, stolen from, and robbed

by the corporatists and right-wingers. Elizabeth Warren is one of
the few people with the honesty, integrity and courage to take on
that bunch and fight for us.

Don't misunderstand me. I will vote for Obama in 2012. To me, he
serves the purpose of delaying a Neocon take-over of our nation for
another 4 years. The Dems. could use those 4 extra years to correct
their mistakes and build up their Party again. I hope the Dem. Party
will be able to bring up a stronger presidential nominee for 2016.

[Dawgs]

14. Wow! Is there anything you won't defend?

:eyes:

[QC]

17. No. n/t

[Bobbie Jo]

22. Is there anything you won't spin into something nefarious?

[tekisui]

23. Absolutely not.

[roxiejules]

9. 'She still wants the job'

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/business/economy/05wa... - NYT 7/4/11


"People outside the agency who speak often with Ms. Warren say they believe she still wants the job.

Only President Obama can decide if Ms. Warren is his choice for director, and for months he has said nothing about it. Mr. Obama has said he has great respect for Ms. Warren and her advocacy for consumers, but he has appeared unwilling to wage a battle with the Senate to actually nominate her to direct the new bureau."

[flpoljunkie]

15. Thanks. This link not working. Try this one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/business/economy/05warren.html?scp=6&sq=Elizabeth%20Warren&st=cse

[roxiejules]

16. Thank you - here is more info

http://articles.boston.com/2011-07-14/bostonglobe/29774296_1_consumer-financial-protection-bureau-setti-warren-elizabeth-warren

7/14/11

“Elizabeth Warren is still in the running for the consumer protection job. I hope she gets that job,’’ said Massachusetts Democratic Party chairman John Walsh

[Tarheel_Dem]

26. I think people should delineate between direct quotes from Ms. Warren & "outside sources"...

don't you? :shrug:

You haven't provided a single quote from Ms. Warren as to whether she even wants the job. Sorry, but your second hand quotes don't quite cut it. :hi:

There are plenty of rumors out there about what she wants, including that she may challenge Scott Brown for his Senate seat. Which are we to believe?

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[vaberella]

18. Maybe it's because Warren said she didn' want any long term post.

Or did people forget this little detail in their whinging.

[davidpdx]

25. On no

Obama is trying to screw us again. :sarcasm:

[bornskeptic]

27. You understand that if he nominated her there is no chance she would be confirmed by the Senate,

don't you? Why would he submit her to months of Republican delay and abuse, knowing that she would never be confirmed? He likes her. That's not something I'd want to do to someone I liked.

[Cal33]

30. Some weeks ago there was so much talk of a recess appointment. Remember?

[flpoljunkie]

31. R's aim to gut agency and say they'll oppose Cordray, as well. I hope the president fights for him.

Republicans are hoping to gain the favor Wall Street banks who are working very hard to keep Dodd-Frank implemented.

Republicans made clear on Sunday that they were no more likely to confirm Mr. Cordray than Ms. Warren. Forty-four Republican senators have signed a letter saying they would refuse to vote on any nominee to lead the bureau, demanding instead that Democrats agree to overhaul the agency’s management structure to replace a single leader with a board of directors.

“Until President Obama addresses our concerns by supporting a few reasonable structural changes, we will not confirm anyone to lead it,” Senator Richard Shelby, the Alabama Republican who is the ranking member on the Banking Committee, said Sunday in a written statement. “No accountability, no confirmation.”

That position was reiterated Sunday by a spokesman for the Senate minority leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who sent reporters a copy of the letter written by Senate Republicans. “The White House has not yet addressed the need to bring accountability and transparency to the bureau,” the spokesman, Don Stewart, said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/business/former-ohio-attorney-general-picked-to-lead-consumer-agency.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp

[Cal33]

32. No matter whom Obama names director of Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the Repubs. will

try to block. They want a committee of 5 members instead of one director.
This would render the bureau useless, of course. If Obama dosn't fight for
Cordray, it means he's giving up the idea of having a Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau altogether. Well, let's wait and see. The Pubs are
sure making life hard for Obama every inch of the way. Notice the gray
hairs he didn't have 2 years ago?