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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 12:59 PM Original message |
Obama Administration's centrist strategy isn't working |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Fragmented? Obama's 84% approval rating by liberals speaks a different tale. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Exactly. All the negative speculation falls flat with those numbers. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. link to where your approval ratings come from. I dont know more than a handful of |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. "Everyone I know voted for McGovern". |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
81. That's a Democratic presidential candidate who you're ridiculing. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
41. You are totally wrong. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #41 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Redefine it anyway you want. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I stand by everything I said. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
52. Oh baloney! |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
59. i think you are probably referring to the week after he killed Osama Bin LAden. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. Yeah! (Except for all of those people in 2010) nt |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not working? WTF? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Elected to what end. Election is a means. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. What end? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. We must judge that accomplishment on the quality |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
49. The Obama haters wont even ACKNOWLEDGE congress not less admit they play a role in their disappoi |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
68. Why do RWers urge us to chase "centrist" voters, yet fail to take their own advice? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think they've been stuck in the mid 90's since after the election. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. Sometimes people dis themselves. |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. Well, everyone has an opinion...... |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. You got that right, especially about giving in to the fringe of a political party. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Do you think there are a lot of "fringe" folks here? |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #17 |
48. Been around long? most Obama haters go to the point of ignoring congress all together |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. So are you saying the left "fringe" is just as wrong as the right "fringe?" |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
40. When one goes so far around the bend, you bump into Teabaggers... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Wow, so a handful of trolls are able to get under your skin? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Look around DU, as of late. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. True, I don't believe all are posted by trolls either. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. Reference the 2010 midterms |
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CarolinaIndependent (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I agree to an extent.. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Really? Progressives only win in "liberal areas?" So how does that explain... |
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CarolinaIndependent (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. And now...he's out.. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. No he didn't. He lost because he was targeted by great gobs of unmarked corporate money... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Feingold is out because |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
64. Indeed, it was a warning shot |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. K&R |
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Palmer Eldritch (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. You are in the minority in this opinion. Why do you think that is? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Actually, you are in the minority. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Link? Thanks. nt |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
58. response 53 has several links. There is no 80% approval rating. anywhere. |
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Palmer Eldritch (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #20 |
53. I am part of the 80%+ of Liberal Democrats who approve of President Obama. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. according to what poll do 80% of Dems approve of the Pres? |
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Palmer Eldritch (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. That's 80% of Liberal Democrats |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. just saw the stats. 40+% of Democrats. the number among liberals will be much lower. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Prove it. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Didn't think so. |
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Palmer Eldritch (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #27 |
55. think again, friend. |
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Palmer Eldritch (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
54. Check any recent poll and you will see that over 80% of Liberal Democrats support Obama. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. So what about the so-called "centrists?" I thought we were talking about a "centrist" strategy. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
84. I am perfectly fine with my opinion being in the minority |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
85. It is better to be right than to be in the majority. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
18. That's because "the center" is a myth. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
30. Some people forget what he is up against. "I want..to make Obama a one-term president" |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. So the way to deal with opposition is to give in to it? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:46 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No answers? |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 02:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I just saw your post and replied. I don't always spend every waking moment |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 02:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. No let's do it your way. Fight it with no support and get ZERO done. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
65. No, there's no public option because the "grand negotiator" took Medicare for All off the table... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
73. The poin t IS: The way to get a public option would have been to fight for single payer! |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. And Nancy Pelosi had nothing to do with it. Oh and neither did that guy |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Who ever claimed that? Why do you feel a need to make stuff up? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
72. Thank-you Classwarrior! |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
71. And moving to the middle consistently makes everything worse. |
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CrazyBob (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
32. Centrism = first GOP house majority in 40 years |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
35. I Don't think he cares about that. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
38. The title of the OP is ironic in light of |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
39. "Centrist" is a bit of an understatement isn't it? Seems fairly well Right-of-Center to me. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
46. "Centrism" is doing exactly what it's supposed to do: |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
47. corporate profits are doing very well |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
70. Who says it's not working? |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
79. I think Obama-bashing strategy by the disgruntled left isnt working. |
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Hand_With_Eyes (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Keep telling yourself that |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. So how is advice on recapturing swing voters an "Obama-bashing strategy by the left?" |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
86. Simply wrong |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
87. I agree, but I wouldn't call it centrist, rather, corporatist. |
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