Elizabeth Warren was just on Andrea Mitchell. She's going home to Massachusetts to 'rest and think.'

[onehandle]

Says that she has been working 14 hours a day in DC. Looking forward to taking her grandchildren to LEGOLAND.

She also 'casually' mentioned that her husband's family have been in Massachusetts for 11 generations.

I think she's going to run. I hope she's going to run.

Take down Senator Pink Leather Shorts.

[polmaven]

1. Before I conclude

that it is a very sexist remark, would you please clarify your "Senator Pink Leather Shorts" remark? Have I forgotten something from his campaign?

[MADem]

2. Are you a fan of the NEKKID GOP Senator? Who knew?????

http://bostonist.com/2010/02/25/scott_browns_pink_leather_shorts.php

It ain't sexist, it's the truth. Why anyone would defend that asswipe, I've no idea.

I hope she runs and wins.

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[MADem]

6. Well, it wasn't 'my' statement, it was the OPs.

And you attacked the OP without knowing the true story, with the nasty "sexist" comment.

You could have done the Google before you lashed out, but it apparently was just too easy to get snarky and mean.

You could also try reading contextually instead of leaping to inaccurate conclusions, like you did with the OP, first, and second, by furiously typing a response to my post without bothering to read closely enough to realize that I was not the OP.

You clearly need to "grow the fuck up and get over YOURself" because, first, you don't read for context, and second, if you're so wired into MA politics, you would have heard this pink leather shorts story about Senator Nudie--the guy is a gay-hatin' laughingstock, and this was simply icing on the cake.

You have one of those nice days, now. Tsk, tsk.

[polmaven]

8. You will note...

that my question was "BEFORE I conclude that the comment was sexist"..... I DID NOT accuse the poster of being sexist. I do apologize to you for missing that the reply was not from same poster of whom I had asked the question.

You have not, however, answered my question regarding where in my post I had given the slightest indication that I SUPPORT Scott Brown, or where I DEFENDED him!

Gee...sorry I missed one magazine article, out of the several hundred that there were!. Sometimes I actually do other things than dwell on politics. I asked the poster for a link....and I don't believe I did so in a rude or accusatory manner.

Now, if you would kindly answer my question....contextually, I mean.

[MADem]

26. And based on YOUR question, I asked two questions, and you bit my head off.

Your getting shirty about the pink shorts made it sound like you were a defender of the Brown Faith.

Clear enough for you? You have a nice one, now--and chill out.

[polmaven]

28. Jump to conclusions much?

There was not a thing in my post that should have given anyone the impression that I was defending Scott Brown. And there was nothing "shitty" about the question, either. It was a freaking QUESTION!!

Buh bye to you as well. Have a nice day.

[MADem]

30. All I did was ask a few questions, and you got SHIRTY--not shitty, SHIRTY

Look it up--distinct difference in meaning. See, ya gotta actually READ the comments before you reply.

It helps the whole "conversation" thing.

Ciao, now.

[onehandle]

9. I mean he's a plastic pretty boy and it is an affront to the Kennedy name that he sits in that seat.

The shorts are a perfect symbol for him.

Outrageous.

[polmaven]

10. I had not seen

the article to which you were referring. I agree, and have from the start, that it is outrageous to have that cover"boy" ( I use boy only because for a female it is cover"girl") sitting in the seat that was represented so admirably by Senator Kennedy. He was America's hope, and America's Senator - not just the Senator from MA. The country lost a bit of our soul when we lost him. We will miss him for as long as we exist.

Brown is the perfect example of the sleaze politician who puts his finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing before taking a stand on issue. (Or before taking 2 or 3 stands on an issue).

[onehandle]

11. Sadly, the incumbent has the advantage.

I think he's keeping a low profile so that his opposition cannot easily pin any wingnutness on him.

I hope the Dems there do a better job than they did when he was elected.

I'd like to see Elizabeth giving them intelligent Hell from inside Congress, but in the end I want whoever has the best chance to knock him off to win the nomination.

[polmaven]

12. As do I.

I will actively support whichever Democrat is selected in the primary. To do otherwise would be, not only unAmerican, but would be an affront to Senator Kennedy's memory.

[Mass]

23. and more importantly against the interest of MA.

[polmaven]

24. Well,

JUST as important, anyway! :toast:

Let me ask you. What do you think of the rumors that John Kerry may be tapped to take over as Secretary of State in 2013, leaving us to go through this all over again? How do you think "Senator Patrick" sounds?

[polmaven]

25. I sure wish

there was a picture of that! Every now and then i get the urge to tweak at one of my (R) frends - one that held a sign for him several time. I can picture her head exploding now!!!

[damntexdem]

3. Oh, on Andrea MITCHELL. I first saw it as on Andrea Doria.

But I hope that she does help in sinking Brown.

[MADem]

7. Priceless!!!!

I don't think he's unsinkable, like MOLLY was!

[woolldog]

4. She's on CNBC right now

seems a little crazy to me.

They asked her if she was going to run for senate and she started crying, saying she wanted to go home and rest.

[polichick]

13. Sounds tired.

[CTyankee]

14. Oh, I don't like the sound of that!

I have heard a rumor -- and one that I have not seen corroborated -- that Obama was irked with her for being too self promoting...the fact that she seems emotionally fragile could be that this was a really bad experience for her overall. The attacks from the right wing could be brushed off for what they were and consider the source, but if Obama had been unhappy with her, that could be devastating psychologically.

Whatever the reason for her tears, and it could be from emotional and physical exhaustion, I wish her the best of luck...but maybe politics just isn't the right place for her right now. Perhaps going back to academia would be the better place...

[woolldog]

15. interesting take.

seems like washington chews people up and spits them out.

[JoePhilly]

16. I think the Senate might be perfect.

But heading this agency would not. I say that because as the head of the agency, you also need to be a personnel, communications, and an OPs manager.

I'll use an analogy. Lots of times, corporations make the mistake of taking a very strong technical person (like Warren) and then the promote them to be "managers".

By doing so, an amazing technical person gets pulled AWAY from the technical challanges they know inside out, and they spend all of their time on BS. Managing people. Operational details. Communicating, up the chain, down to the people in the org, and then OUT beyond the organization. The result is that you take a great technical person out of what they love doing, and you make them do things they hate doing.

And, they burn out. To be effective in something as complex at this, you need an operational manager to handle all that BS, and you need people, or a person who really knows the tech details. Rarely will you find some one who has the knowledge, skill, or the TIME to do it all.

And I think THAT is what she has been doing. But she brought in this guy, and he appears to have enough of the tech knowledge to make decisions, but is even more comfortable in the OPs manager role.

If Warren goes to the Senate, she'll be able to focus on legislation. She'll be able to hire a staff to run the operations, all of that stuff.

But I agree ... I think she is exhausted, and she's probably going to go and sleep for a week or two ... let her emotions go because she's been holding them very close ... and then, hopefully ... she takes Kennedy's seat back from that nit wit.

[CTyankee]

18. Very thoughtful and yes, you are so right! but I DO wonder about the life of a U.S. Senator.

She would have to spend so much of her time raising money, which is not something I think she really wants to do (it is a horrible job; I know, because I did it as a career but in nonprofits, not in politics). She would have to spend an inordinate amount of time talking to rich people and trying to extract money from them...not sure that is her cup of tea either...but who knows, academics often have to suck up to rich donors...

[JoePhilly]

20. Agree with your last point completly ...

Getting research funding has its own weird politics.

My guess is that she's been pulled into a war. And while she is technically very very strong, she needs / wants to get some added background on the political war strategy.

My bottom line ... a great warrior is not always a great General. The roles are very different.

I just hope she remains engaged.

[styersc]

17. She is absolutely going to run and I'll send whatever cash i can.

Being from South Carolina I have no dog in the Progressive hunt from my own state, so I send money away. Bernie Sanders has heard from me and I will help Ms. Warren as well!!!

[Tx4obama]

19. I'm sure her husband and family are looking forward to spending quality time with her

I hope they have a wonderful time, and I hope she will then decide to run for the Senate! :)

[RBInMaine]

21. I hope she runs for the Senate.

[Mass]

22. If she runs, she will need to win the primary and, contrarily to what

some here think, she is not that well-known in MA. Polls show she is barely better known than the other candidates.

The other thing is that, while she is great on consumer protection issues, what are her positions on the other issues. I don't known anything about her views on these issues (which is not surprising) or anything about her ability to campaign (and really nobody knows that).

So, I have nothing against her, far from it, as I have hoped for a long time she would run, but I'd like to know and we will know in the primary. In addition, she will be a magnet for RW money for Brown.

In addition, I am not that sure she wants to run and she may deserve some rest.

[MADem]

27. Everything you say is absolutely true.

However, what she does have is a national footprint. When you have one of those, it does help with the fundraising, and fundraising buys airtime, and airtime brings familiarity.

She also has friends in high places--that's helpful for corralling money as well.

It ain't a walk in the park, in any event, but if she does want to try for it, it's worth giving it a run. I think we need more women in the Senate, I mean, really, it's the 21st Century, the numbers should be better than they are--we'd get more work done and have less toilet toe tapping (and lying about it) and diaper shenanigans, I think.

The big question is, though, as you note--does she want to give it a go?

[polmaven]

29. Actually, because of his run in 2010,

I think it may be that Alan Khazei may be better known than she. He did come in 2nd behind Martha Coakley.

I also believe she would be able to get her name out there. Particularly if the president makes a stop or two for her.

[Mass]

32. She should try IF SHE WANTS, but I think that the political establishment should stop pester her

and stop denigrating the existing candidates (implicitly or explicitly). We are likely to end with one of these guys as the nominee, and Menino and Patty Murray saying to the media they are not worthwhile is not going to help.

[polmaven]

33. I agree completely.

She will, - and SHOULD - do what SHE wants to do. I think she would make an excellent Senator, but it is her decision. We do have some good candidates, including Khazie and my friend Marisa DeFranco...I bet you don't know her yet...She has some good credentials, but is not currently very well known.

[Mass]

34. I heard of her, but dont know too much. I liked what I heard though.

[watercolors]

31. She would be a great senator, hope she runs!