Elizabeth Warren Is A Massive President Obama supporter.

[vaberella]

It just goes to show that while so many "progressives" or Dem/liberals netizens bash him. She seems to be in line with the President and clearly outlined to the American people on Rachel's show that the President cares. The President wants to help. The President is being blocked by Repubs and Teabaggers. They are the ones who are holding the nation hostage and helping along retarded growth. Not the President and never him. Apparently every legislation, all the funding for the organization Obama created and put Elizabeth Warren at the head---Republicans and Teabaggers have haulted, stalled, or made a concerted effort to outright destroy.

We need to see who the enemy is and it's not each other. It's Teabaggers AND Congressional Republicans----why do I state them both. Because they are not the same. I think we have to say they are absolutely NOT the same!

[Scurrilous]

1. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Pisces]

2. K & R.

[BlueCaliDem]

3. I saw her on Rachel Maddow, too. She was adament in her support for the President

and credits him for being focused and determined to create the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

She also gave us the url to their new website: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/

Pretty cool!

And K&Rec'd!

[liberalla]

67. Yes she was. K&R!

Warren for President!

[MannyGoldstein]

4. You expect her, under any circumstances, to badmouth her former boss?

She'd never get another job.

[xchrom]

6. +1

[dennis4868]

8. I think of all people Warren...

is someone who tells the truth no matter what...if she felt Obama was not porogressive and cared, she would come right out and say it....I know, what she says goes against the DU narrative of Obama so she must be wrong (just like Lawrence O'Donnell last week).

[MannyGoldstein]

9. You think a person becomes a Harvard professor without knowing when to clam up?

Really?

[dennis4868]

11. huh?

[ProSense]

12. Why do you need to insult her intelligence and integrity?n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

14. Have you ever heard of "executive functioning"?

Look into it. Warren has loads of it, as do almost all other Harvard profs.

It has zero to do with intelligence or integrity, both of which she has in vast quantities.

[jpak]

18. Have you ever heard of "made-up bullshit" ?

Too bad she disappointed

yup

[MannyGoldstein]

20. No need for bad language. nt

[jpak]

21. I call 'em like I see 'em

yup

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[CakeGrrl]

17. It's a CONSPIRACY!!

It's all Kabuki Theater, to use the Phrase of the Week.

President Obama is up to no good, and everyone who says he's doing what he can to help the American people just 'going along to get along or else'.

In truth, FDR and LBJ are spinning in their graves at this incompetent corporatist fool!


:crazy:
:crazy:
:crazy:

[Palmer Eldritch]

29. I take it you're not a Harvard Professor.

[MannyGoldstein]

33. Correct. Although several of my buddies are.

And they have excellent executive functioning.

[vaberella]

30. You obviously think very little of Ms. Warren. Why even comment? n/t

[Ikonoklast]

41. And under the bus goes Warren!

Knew it wouldn't take that long.


Think this is a record, though.

[MannyGoldstein]

43. No, she's great. I love her.

But I'd be shocked if she did anything but praise a former boss.

[vaberella]

47. Why love someone who can't speak her own mind? Why?

She shouldn't be afraid to speak candidly about the President and clearly. She's criticized the President in the past and the actions that have taken place. She doesn't have to bash to be critical---as so many on DU have said. So she should be able to freely state her opinion, even if critical of her boss. And she's talked about encouraging discussions she's had with the president. Why would she change? Ridiculous.

It would seem to me that you can't handle a positive regard of Obama by someone you think is great and on your side. Since you don't believe Obama is on your side---so then you now marginalize her statements as being "talking points" of sorts.

[MannyGoldstein]

49. Would you say bad things about your ex-boss on TV? nt

[vaberella]

57. Yes. I have in the past. I have an opinion and I don't think I should be silenced. n/t

[SkyDaddy7]

69. WOW?!?! nt.

[TheWraith]

25. What makes you think she NEEDS another job?

She has tenure at Harvard, which is as secure a job as you can get, and she has the cred to do anything else that she wants.

[vaberella]

28. What you're saying is that Warren is weak and dumb? She's not strong enough to criticize him?

You obviously think very little of her. How sadly pathetic on your part.

[roxiejules]

61. When Maddow asked Warren if she wished she had been appointed

she replied:


"I want to be clear, the reason I cannot run this agency is because of those people. They've made it perfectly clear they will not let the agency go forward if I'm there, fine. I can step away from this."



IMHO she wanted the job and was not going to publicly fault Obama.

[chill_wind]

62. And there you go. Not complicated at all.

What would be gained from furthering controversy and burning bridges?
If she did want it at some point, I hope she does go on to parley the loss into whatever else she might seek (ie a Senate seat)if she decides. She would bring true excellence to it.

[roxiejules]

63. Yes, she would

bring true excellence!

[vaberella]

66. Republicans would let her, and definitely not the agency if she was there. n/t

[DCBob]

68. If Obama is as bad as some you think he is then she would be negligent to not say anything about it.

She would be just as guilty or even more so to abandon her principles just to have a cushy job.

[SkyDaddy7]

70. If Obama was as bad as folks here on DU want him to be...

Obama would have vetoed the Dodd-Frank Bill &/or done away with Warren long ago. I cannot believe people are now throwing Warren under the bus as weak & scared to speak her mind when THAT IS EXACTLY WHY EVERYONE HERE HAS ALWAYS LOVED HER!! WTF?!?!

[Number23]

87. You win the thread

I cannot believe people are now throwing Warren under the bus as weak & scared to speak her mind when THAT IS EXACTLY WHY EVERYONE HERE HAS ALWAYS LOVED HER!! WTF?!?!

don't you get it? If she was trashing the president and saying what a disaster he was, she'd be "speaking her mind." But showing so much support for this president and saying things that make sense to even a 4 year old (that the commission would not even exist without the president and his support) means that she is suddenly unable to speak her mind. Even though she no longer works for the person "silencing" her. :eyes:

You just have to :rofl:, man. Some of this stuff is just surreal.

[Inuca]

71. She does not need one

She is a tenured professor at Harvard.

[guruoo]

76. Beat me to it. nt

[Fearless]

84. +1 ...Except maybe senator if he signs the "gang of six" sell out.

[Ikonoklast]

5. KNR.

[dennis4868]

7. she is on the inside and speaks with Obama...

so she knows better than us about what Obama cares about...here at DU we only hyperspeculate about Obama but it has nothing to do with the facts!

[eilen]

19. Like many, she hears what he might want to do but we see what he

actually does.

[CakeGrrl]

27. So you're saying she has blinders on?

If she doesn't think he's a failure they way you do, she doesn't "really get it"?

:eyes:

[vaberella]

34. You think she's being lied too? You've got very little regard to Ms. Warren. n/t

[vaberella]

31. Agreed. n/t

[bluestateguy]

10. Many people at DU are out of touch

Out of touch with progressives in regular America that is.

[Change Happens]

96. +10000

[babylonsister]

13. Rec'd. She was great. nt

[CakeGrrl]

15. K/R - she gets it.

[jpak]

16. K&R

:toast:

[Tarheel_Dem]

22. Let's be real here. The noise coming from the leftosphere is just that. Noise!

Recommended.

[Gregorian]

23. This is an important moment.

Now I'm clear regarding Obama. I've been fighting on his behalf in discussions recently, saying that he is being sandbagged by the right. Now I know it's true.

[naaman fletcher]

26. Warren is against the bank bailouts, Obama is for them. nt.

[vaberella]

36. Obama wasn't for bank bailouts.

He said so during the battle on them and didn't want to vote on them. But the bailouts were in the works since April 2008 or something under Bush and they had to be adhered to, so he said we had to hold up those contracts. Get the facts. Any bank bailout said to be pushed by Obama---is false and created by Repubs...everyone knows this.

[Gregorian]

39. Thanks. I forgot this while having an argument yesterday.

It's so hard to defend Obama against conservatives when I keep forgetting the facts. It's a real chore.

[MannyGoldstein]

54. Actually, I think he was in favor:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/15/tarp-vote-obama-wins-350_n_158292.html">TARP Vote: Obama Wins, Senate Effectively Approves $350 Billion

And who can forget our lovely Christmas-eve gift? http://www.alternet.org/blogs/workplace/144836/obama%27s_outrageous_christmas_gift_to_fannie_and_freddie/

[vaberella]

58. Uh, I did say he voted for it.

I never said he didn't. And he went on the house floor and explained why he voted for it and was supportive of it, since it was part of the contract deals that were in place because of Bush---which Bush had made. It was continuation of promises already made. I don't know what you think you're telling me.

[naaman fletcher]

55. The bailouts continued under him

and continue to this day. Sorry you still believe that Obama is on our side, but the facts speak differently.

Yes, he said he was against them. He also said he was against torture.

[vaberella]

59. Hello...as I stated...the contracts were already signed in place before he was put in office. n/t

[girl gone mad]

79. Don't be a fool.

Obama personally whipped the CBC to get TARP rushed through congress. I remember the details like it happened last night.

You can't just show up at random and assert some total bullshit as if it's fact.

[uponit7771]

88. I don't remember them that way, link and quote please. Thx

[girl gone mad]

78. lol.

Thanks for the laugh.

[polmaven]

82. Well, no, not really...

but, even if what you say was accurate, so what? No one has said she agrees 100% with everything he has said or done. She probably doesn't. I know I don't. I doubt anyone here does. But that doesn't mean she or we cannot still support him strongly.

Edit to add...I don't agree 100% with everything everyone in my family does, either.

[jefferson_dem]

32. Proves once again how petty and misinformed Obama's serial critics are...

Fuckem.

[vaberella]

44. Amen. n/t

[Safetykitten]

35. Poor President Obama. In such a powerless position. Now does he do it?

I mean he's just President. Such a weak and powerless place of woe.

[vaberella]

38. Disregard the Republicans and Teabaggers as much as you want and branding Warren a liar.

It does a body good. :sarcasm:

[boxman15]

51. Are you aware of how laws are made?

There's a thing called Congress where they get passed.

[rpannier]

85. And excellent skilled people move their agendas through Congress

The Democrats had a giant majority in both houses. The White House and the Senate spent their time playing poor politics with the very minority party through it all

The tag line has always been it's Nelson and LIEberman's fault.
If an administration can't get its own people on board, they're rather ineffective

[nevergiveup]

37. K&R

This was a terrific interview. Elizabeth Warren is one tough cookie. I love this woman!

[AtomicKitten]

40. Elizabeth Warren has been a straight-shooter in all matters

... including that concerning Pres Obama. Her testimonial in that regard is and should be considered truthful and straightforward; there is no better source. And all the lies and shit-stirring perpetrated to convince people otherwise are exposed.

Her exuberance over the CFPB is infectious. She is a hope-monger! I hope she heeds the call to run for the Senate and restore Ted Kennedy's seat back to blue.

k&r

[woolldog]

42. she's being a good soldier.

what do you expect her to do alienate the President? Even if she hated his guts she'd act the same way. I hear it's good to be able to list the POTUS as a reference on job applications.

[CakeGrrl]

45. Gotta love the steadfast naysaying.

Let me see if I have this right:

1) If people criticize the President, it's because he sucks. They're correct.

2) If people say something favorable about the President, it's because they HAVE to, not because they actually THINK so.


:rofl:

[woolldog]

52. I didn't say anything about "people" in general

I was speaking to this particular situation only.

[StarburstClock]

72. How about if torture, perma-war, criminal banks, no health care continue...

then we've got a conservative as a president, not a progressive. Welcome to reality.

[CakeGrrl]

74. How about if the steps have been taken to move these things forward?

Then we have a DEMOCRATIC president who's working with the REALITY that these changes aren't made on a dime. And he's said it repeatedly.

[vaberella]

46. You realize you're throwing her under the bus. Additionally, you have very little regard for her.

You are stating she has no mind of her own by your claim of her being a "good soldier." She can't think for herself? She can't state her own opinion truthfully? So then why respect her. She's a soldier, repeating talking points. I've been called an Obamabot/Soldier---soshe's in the same.

You're something else. You all are. Good Lord.

[woolldog]

48. I'm assuming she's a rational person.

As such, there's no incentive for her to bash the President. It would accomplish nothing. And if she's thinking of running for office she may need him, his contacts, fundraising ability, whatever.

Everyone's had a job they hated, where they disliked their boss etc, but left on good terms because you might need the references or whatever later.

[Whisp]

56. bunch of hooey

yeh, Warren just hates Obama, I mean, how could she Not?

:crazy:

[vaberella]

60. That's a round about way to defend your indefensable narrative.

She can be critical and truthful while being supportive. But she seemed to have nothing bad to say in regards to Obama on this front. She is hardly a soldier and I think she would be offended by your statements. I would be anyway.

[CakeGrrl]

64. Why do you automatically assume she's only being diplomatic?

It reflects YOUR attitude about the President that you project it onto Warren.

Sounds to me like you simply don't believe she could say what she said and actually MEAN it.

Why is that?

[guruoo]

77. She is not in need of referances, nt

[woolldog]

90. I beg to differ

if she wants to get into politics, as appears to be the case, it would be silly to burn bridges with Obama. He can only help her.

[guruoo]

94. No issue here to be burning bridges over in the first place.

She's happy, Obama's happy, those praying for a rift between the two, not so much.

[boxman15]

50. No thanks.

I have a meme to stick to, thank you very much.

[vaberella]

53. I understand. Keep it up. n/t

[Number23]

65. Most thinking people are.

Rec'd

[StarburstClock]

73. So a person who's anti-torture, anti criminal bank, anti perma war is "non thinking"? LOL

Have fun "thinking" your way to complete denial.

[Number23]

86. I stand with this president and I am so far from being alone

Including so many people that this board loves to hold up as some "potential liberal challenger." :rofl:

Have fun "thinking" your way into THAT denial.

[Fearless]

75. I love how we belittle our party members. n/t

[CakeGrrl]

83. Yes, like when

infiltrators like Hamsher call some Dems "the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet" and other Dems back her up.

It's true. We shouldn't be belittling each other. The Republicans are THE enemy here.

And if only more people could see the example set by Dr. Warren rather than belittling HER by assuming she does not or cannot mean what she says.

[grahamhgreen]

80. If only it were the other way around, as well.

[udbcrzy2]

81. She has no choice but to support him n/t

[uponit7771]

89. Yeap, another one calling Warren a sell out too...bashers have no compass...just consumate bashing

[tallahasseedem]

91. Why doesn't she have a choice?

What did he put a spell on her or something? She can speak out against him if she wants? Why can't you admit that she actually supports him?

[udbcrzy2]

92. Yeah, he used duck tape wtf???

She's for the little guy and he is not.

[ZombieHorde]

93. Recommended for the nerdy use of the word, "Massive."

So funny. I love it.

[Change Happens]

95. So am I, and I also support her for a Senate seat in MA!