Jane Hamsher: Why won't Obama support the McConnell plan?

[blueclown]

She was just on the Ed Show. She made a good point. Why doesn't Obama put his full weight behind the McConnell plan? And yet there are certain "progressives" on this forum that will support Obama as he ignores the McConnell plan and works to make devastating cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

[Enrique]

1. gmta

:-)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x709734

[jefferson_dem]

2. Hamsher?

You mean the Hamsher who has saddled up with the teabagger contingent in baselessly bashing Obama and opposing every single "big ticket" Democratic policy initiative over the last 2.5 years? She has zero credibility. Sorry.

[SoFlaJet]

3. Two People

I could care less what they think are Jane Hamsher and Ed Shultz

[blueclown]

4. Yea, like health care reform, right?

The tea party really wanted that public option, huh?

Hamsher is much more progressive than Obama on pretty much every issue.

[jefferson_dem]

9. Progressive?

:rofl:

Shouldn't a progressive actually support "progress"? Instead PUMA Hamsher chose to cozy up to teabaggers and Grover Norquist in OPPOSING health care reform, financial reform, middle class tax cuts, an extension of unemployment insurance and on and on...

Perhaps this troll can go back on FauxNews and spew about how Obama supporters are simply "Dumb Motherfuckers".

[paulk]

19. a cheap answer

she makes a legitimate point here.

[msongs]

5. better yet why won't obama support the progressives plan. oh, its progressive lol nt

[ClarkUSA]

6. Because President Obama isn't a bought and paid for Republican tool like PUMA Jane Hamster Face.

Has she released a list of the Republican clients of her media company yet?

Has she ever explained why she attacked those who questioned why she ignored the boycott of HuffPo?

[blueclown]

7. Bizzaro world logic.

You relentless Obama defenders really make me laugh. It's not Jame Hamsher that wants to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

[ClarkUSA]

10. Says the person who likes Dylan Ratigan, the self-admitted conservative who shills for the GOP?

:rofl:

[KoKo]

21. Shame on you....you still doing that Dylan Ratigan dissing?

:eyes:

[girl gone mad]

36. What's wrong with Dylan Ratigan?

Christ, is there anyone in the media you guys don't hate?

[scheming daemons]

8. Because the second he does, the GOP will kill the McConnell plan and it won't pass

Jane, like most of the angry left who can't see between the lines, thinks the GOP is bargaining in good faith.

They are NOT.


They will not vote for ANYTHING that they feel the President will try to claim victory on.


The very minute that Obama appears to support the McConnell plan, Republicans in the House and Senate will abandon it in droves.


What you folks STILL DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND.... is that if Obama is for it, the GOP is against it... and vice versa.


The only way Obama can *WIN* this game is to make the Republicans think that he *LOST* it.


Jane... like most low IQ Obama bashers... hasn't been able to understand that fact yet.

[AtomicKitten]

11. Why won't Jane Hamsher eat that shit she's stirring?

The Democrats just announced there will not be enough time for a compromise package, meaning it's quite possible the Congress will get another shot at a clean vote. The McConnell plan is bullshit and calls for a Balanced Budget Amendment which will NEVER pass. Looks to me like Ms. Thang needs to do her homework.

[dennis4868]

12. Jane Hamsher....

who cares what she has to say....she's a waste of my time!

[Tx4obama]

13. Who the hell cares what she has to say. n/t

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[jaxx]

15. I added my unrec to the others.

Hamsher is a pub and Ed is a creep for putting her on there to bash the President. What a couple of losers.

Edit to add>> Maybe the Rev. Al can take over his show too. Somebody needs to.

[CakeGrrl]

16. Jane Who?

[Tarheel_Dem]

17. I think a better question for progressives is why would Jane Hamsher support the McConnell bill?

Her "progressive" mask is peeling more & more each day. Pretty soon it's gonna be hard for Ms. Hamsher & supporters to keep up the pretense. She and Arianna are cut from the same cloth ($$$). ;)

Hamsher & her tea party backers, along with her naive progressive supporters, are hard at work on the inter-tubes I see. :eyes:

Oh. Unrec. :thumbsdown:

[DrToast]

22. Seriously, the McConnell plan is awful. What's up with her?

[Luminous Animal]

23. Except she never said what the OP claims she said.

http://my.firedoglake.com/elliott/2011/07/19/jane-on-eds-show-tonight/

[Tarheel_Dem]

24. Doesn't much matter. I think the scales are being lifted from the eyes of

a lot of people about Ms. Hamsher. By the way, does she still counsel Repukes about how to beat Democrats? :shrug:

[Luminous Animal]

26. She's never done that. She leads a company that sells ads on political blogs and discussion boards.

The company is non-partisan. You do know, don't you, that DU features republican advertising. Thus Skinner et.al., are making money by promoting republicans.

By the way, what doesn't matter much? I feel that if people are going to smear Hamsher, the very least they could do is use the truth.

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. "Truth"? You're definitely on the wrong site. FDL's "truth" is tainted

by her associations. Teabaggers bragged about their association with Hamsher during the healthcare fight. Let's agree on this, I can't stand her guts, and nothing you can post will change that simple fact. I know who & what she is. Mmmmkay? :hi:

After she's done her part to try & defeat Obama, she'll once again fade into obscurity, because she will have served her purpose. Much like Ralph Nader, Democrats will despise her, and Repukes will have no further use for her. Hopefully, she will have collected quite a tidy sum from her rightwing associations, and her leftwing devotees. ;)

[Luminous Animal]

35. Teabaggers (emphasis on the plural) did no such thing. One woman hinted a, "perhaps"

conversation but, upon further questioning, backtracked. And that is the full extent of Hamsher's "association" with teabaggers.

That you consistently post untruths to support your hatred of Hamsher, merely reveals that you have little regard for the truth thus tainting DU.

[Tarheel_Dem]

37. And your denial almost borders on willful blindness. You & I have been here...

before, and I gotta say that your blinding loyalty (or whatever it is) to this charlatan is sadly misplaced. IMHO. :hi:

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[truedelphi]

30. Thanks for the reality check.

Good to know and to have that link.

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[NorthCarolina]

20. Obviously he won't because he is working, behind the scenes as much as possible, to enact cuts

to these programs. I have little doubt that this is exactly what he was put into the White House to do.

[truedelphi]

29. Long story that applies to whom someone like Pres. Obama is- can't cut a word of it

Most important political conversation ever:

George Seldes, who was a Chicago Tribune correspondant during the late Nineteen teens and up until 1929
relates the following conversation that he had with Dorothy Thompson -another news reporter and the wife of Sinclair Lewis:

Thompson told Seldes in 1935 that while en route by ocean liner from France to NYC that Harry F. Sinclair, a Big Money Guy, took her away from the table where they were eating to talk privately with her. (Harry F Sinclair is mentioned in some history books for his involvement with the Teapot Dome scandal.)

"See those folks at the table who were eating with us?" Harry F Sinclair asks Thompson?

"Yes," answers Dorothy.

"Well, all of us are the ones who decide who gets nominated to run for the Presidency and who gets to win that office."

Among those he meant was an important associate of the Gianini family, who established Bank of America.

""We give money on both sides of the aisle, so that no matter what, one of our people is always in a place to do our bidding."

"What about FDR?" asked Dorothy.

"Our support for him was a major misjudgement on our part. We saw to it that he had money and of course, we fully expected for him to say the sort of things that he always said. We just didn't expect him to act on those statements."

Sinclair went on to state that the Inner Circle of Power Brokers was attempting to raise some five to twenty million to defeat FDR in 1936.

But the voting machinery was still non-hackable back in that era. And FDR had millions upon millions of everyday people to vote him back in.

Obama campaigned as a progressive in October of 2008. He made statements that only a progressive would make. But he tipped his hand to everyone when he told "Sixty Minutes" the last Sunday in Nov of 2008 that he thought that Paulson was doing a good job.

The Big Money/Inner Circle of the Uber Elite supported this man, and he has been true to them. And what can the average voter do about it? We sure as heck cannot vote for Newt Gingrich or Donald Trump or Bachman or Palin...

[Mimosa]

39. Thanks for reminding us of real history

I don't things have changed.

It's important for us to KEEP UP THE PRESSURE on Obama. He told us to 'hold his feet to the fire'. Now some appear to want us to shut up?

[jenmito]

25. She's too dumb to realize that if he DID do that publicly, the Repubs. would automatically

be against it. Lawrence O'Donnell gets it-once the other "plans" fail, he'll "have to settle" with the Reid-McConnell plan.

[Sheepshank]

27. Are we talking about the same conniving, lying, creepy, manipulative McConnell?

if so...there can never be anything he says that should be agreed upon by Obama.

Hamsher is even more of an idiot than I thought if she thinks Obama should go along with ANYTHING McConnell has to offer. That snake oil salesman cannot EVER be taken at face value. McConnell has already clearly spoken what his priorities are with regards to Obama...everything he does, are steps toward that one goal.

[Luminous Animal]

31. Perhaps you should listen to what she actually said rather than add to this 2 minute hate session

based on misinformation.

I am finding that their are fewer and fewer members of DU who are willing to take a few minutes of research before exercising their poutrage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwounZwU2XY&feature=player_embedded

[Sheepshank]

32. I watched the original...no desire for a re-run.

you can keep your judgment to yourself. My personal opinon of Hamsher is fine just the way it is.

[Luminous Animal]

33. Then you know for a fact that she did not say what the OP claimed she said. And yet, you

based your post on blatant misinformation.

Interesting.

[truedelphi]

28. A big K & R - n/t

[quiller4]

40. Because he really wants a clean bill with no strings.

If he negotiates long enough and pretends to support plans that can't make it through one house or the other while making statements that offend his bse about cuts he is willing to entertain, he eats the clock but makes it appear that all the delay is the Republicans fault. Soon the only compromise possible that can get through both houses will be a clean bill that only raises the debt ceiling--what he said he wanted way back in January.