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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:29 AM
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Give this information to people who say the Republicans care about vets
While looking to get the roll call on the Cap, cut and control bill, I noticed this failed amendment to the must pass military budget. It is from Coburn and it aims to make it harder for "herbicide" caused illness to be considered related to service. (agent orange?)

It is much harder, and possibly impossible, to prove a causal relationship. Statistics can only show a positive association.

As can be seen, this failed and failed badly, but I really don't get why they would want to re litigate this. Yet there are military people who oddly believe that the it is the Republicans who care for them.




XML U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 112th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Motion to Table (Motion to Table Coburn Amdt. No. 564 )
Vote Number: 114 Vote Date: July 20, 2011, 04:53 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Motion to Table Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 564 to H.R. 2055 (Military Construction and Veterans Affairs and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012)
Statement of Purpose: To require evidence of causal relationships for presumptions by the Secretary of Veterans Affairs of service connection for diseases associated with exposure to certain herbicide agents.
Vote Counts: YEAs 69
NAYs 30
Not Voting 1


The people who voted NOT TO TABLE this were:
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kirk (R-IL)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)


Here is the change in the Senate record:

SA 564. Mr. COBURN submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill H.R. 2055, making appropriations for military construction, the Department of Veterans Affairs, and related agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2012, and for other purposes; as follows:

On page 112, between lines 2 and 3, insert the following:

Sec. 230. (a) Section 1116(b) of title 38, United States Code, is amended--

(1) in paragraph (1), by striking ``positive association'' and inserting ``causal relationship''; and

(2) by striking paragraph (3).

(b) The amendments made by subsection (a) shall apply with respect to determinations made by the Secretary of Veterans Affairs under section 1116 of such title after the date of the enactment of this Act.


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