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Fri Jul-22-11 02:27 PM
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Obama now at 85% approval among liberal Democrats |
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:32 PM
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1. Gosh, you mean to say that DU is extreme and not representative of the public?! |
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I'm shocked, shocked I say!!
I predict crickets for this thread.
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:40 PM
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You can be an overall supporter and still have major complaints.
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:43 PM
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10. Not just DU - its a blog phenomena. |
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People group with other outliers to support their own need for confirmation bias.
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Fri Jul-22-11 04:24 PM
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22. This is true. It's the way echo chambers happen. |
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And it's also the creator of the "But everyone I know voted for McGovern!" effect.
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Fri Jul-22-11 08:39 PM
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33. I'm not extreme, I'm rational. nt |
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Sat Jul-23-11 02:21 AM
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36. Me too - that's why I'm behind this President 100% |
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:38 PM
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2. Down from 85% in the same poll in November... |
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:38 PM
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3. Not many are paying attention, vacations, no money, heat, etc. n/t |
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:39 PM
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4. Something seems wrong about that number. nt |
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:40 PM
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8. Only if you count DU as all American liberal Dems. n/t |
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:39 PM
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5. If true, incredibly depressing. |
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:41 PM
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yeah if true i hold out very little hope for this country. :(
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Fri Jul-22-11 08:31 PM
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31. Why? Just because some here on DU suffer from Obama Derangement |
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doesn't mean the majority of us progressives do! I proudly support our president and I don't mind saying so. Suffer well...
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Sat Jul-23-11 12:53 PM
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49. And some are blind cheerleaders |
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if you want to start with the name calling and psycho-analyizing. if you think Obama is good.. bwwwhhahah.. sorry the thought just cracks me up - i've got this awesome bridge to sell you - you're gonna LOVE it! :eyes:
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Sat Jul-23-11 06:38 PM
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Sat Jul-23-11 11:07 PM
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53. Not blind! SMART!!! And understand how politics work! n/t |
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:40 PM
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6. Just makes me think people don't really understand the meaning of the word liberal -or aren't paying |
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attention to his actions. Worst. Democrat. President. Ever.
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Fri Jul-22-11 04:23 PM
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21. First of all, it's 'Democratic,' not 'Democrat' |
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Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 04:26 PM by UrbScotty
Second, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, James K. Polk, and Martin were all Democrats - What did they do that would make them better than Obama?
Third, Bill Clinton gave us NAFTA and DADT - and there was a lot of scandal surrounding his administration (and not just that which involved his Breitbart). Great guy, but not as liberal or successful as Obama.
Fourth, LBJ escalated a war, Obama ended one and has begun to end another.
Fifth, if more people were paying attention, he'd probably have more than 90% approval among liberal Democrats and 60%-plus approval among all Americans.
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Fri Jul-22-11 08:32 PM
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32. Thank you! Tired of that "DemoCRAT" shit, too! Appreciate that. n/t |
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Sat Jul-23-11 02:35 AM
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or at least he claims to be one.
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Fri Jul-22-11 04:25 PM
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23. Right, it has to be THEM who doesn't understand. It couldn't be the perpetually angry whiners... |
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...who universally believe that they are representative of all liberals.
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:44 PM
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Fri Jul-22-11 03:10 PM
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No one in my group of friends/acquaintances approves of the job he has done. And this is in an academic setting with lots of liberals.
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Fri Jul-22-11 04:51 PM
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28. "But everyone I know voted for McGovern!" |
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For the umpteenth time this thread: one person's social circle is not more valid than scientific polling.
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Sat Jul-23-11 11:35 AM
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48. lol do you realize the irony of promoting your very high academic |
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credentials and in the same post that any scientific polling that disagrees with your anecdotal group of friends is 'bullshit'.
I wouldn't want to take a statistics course at that academic institution.
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:48 PM
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12. I call bullshit too. I know a lot of pissed off liberals |
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right now, who I assume are still considered Democrats. Just bullshit. I hope HE'S (the Pres.) not buying this crap and allowing it to guide his actions.
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Fri Jul-22-11 04:26 PM
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24. "But everyone I know voted for McGovern!" |
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Newsflash: your personal circle is not more scientifically valid than a demographically sampled and adjusted poll.
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Sat Jul-23-11 08:20 AM
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44. I think they only polled DNC employees. |
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:49 PM
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13. Obama would do well to ignore this poll |
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Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 02:52 PM by fascisthunter
because I do think it's bullshit, and before you start regurgitating the new meme that DU is not representative of the US liberals, I personally know liberals who do NOT come to DU and they won't be voting for him.
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Fri Jul-22-11 02:56 PM
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Fri Jul-22-11 03:03 PM
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15. CNN Poll: Drop in liberal support pushes Obama approval rating down |
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Fri Jul-22-11 03:11 PM
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18. Last two months of Gallup, prior to the current poll.... |
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Jul 11, 2011 85% Jul 4, 2011 84% Jun 27, 2011 86% Jun 20, 2011 81% Jun 13, 2011 86% Jun 6, 2011 87% May 30, 2011 87% May 23, 2011 88% May 16, 2011 90% May 9, 2011 88% Gallup Link is to Excel-format data. Plunging.
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Fri Jul-22-11 03:59 PM
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19. Question 43 of the poll you posted |
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Do you think the Democratic party should renominate Barack Obama as the party's candidate for president in 2012, or do you think the Democratic party should nominate a different candidate for president in 2012? Democrats: Democrat 81% Liberal 84% Moderate 76% http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/07/22/obama.aproval.pdf
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Fri Jul-22-11 04:12 PM
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20. Well, that's only because they didn't... |
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Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 04:12 PM by Davis_X_Machina
...specifically ask about Bernie Sanders, of course.
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Sat Jul-23-11 10:16 AM
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47. Wow, so it's the moderates who are slightly less happy |
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Fri Jul-22-11 04:51 PM
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27. Yes, because your personal prejudices are more accurate than scientific polling! |
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Wait... I think I know what's bullshit here.
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Fri Jul-22-11 04:53 PM
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29. i don't believe in polls |
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not when *ush was in charge, and not now. polls are easily manipulated.
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Fri Jul-22-11 08:29 PM
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I think a few folks are gonna need some of this:
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Sat Jul-23-11 06:42 PM
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You gotta quit doing that!
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Fri Jul-22-11 09:03 PM
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34. His rating is 0% among the liberals I know. And most other voting Democrats I know. |
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But I must only be hanging out with the fringe, I guess--all my friends are teachers, healthcare workers, seniors and students.
:sarcasm:
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Sat Jul-23-11 02:29 AM
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37. Not liberals. Liberal Democrats. |
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Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 02:29 AM by boppers
The polling number was about self-described a) Democrats who b) trend liberal.
That leaves out greens, anarchists, socialists, communists, pacifists (And lots of other "ists")... bunches of liberals who aren't democrats, though they may caucus with them.
edit: typo
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Sat Jul-23-11 10:14 AM
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46. They aren't enough for an accurate poll |
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Fri Jul-22-11 09:16 PM
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35. LOL....good one. No, I don't want to buy a bridge either. n/t |
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Sat Jul-23-11 03:01 AM
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I decide how I feel and how I vote, do you honestly think people should look at some poll results and say oh, I must join up with the herd? And why care if there is a board that does not particularly like Obama? Unless the mandate for Group Think has taken effect - just go to a board that likes him..... this whole piling on whenever there is a discouraging word, whenever there are people who don't follow the party line - is starting to remind me of how the religious right wants to regulate me. Just no.
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Sat Jul-23-11 07:04 AM
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42. According to a CNN poll |
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almost one in four who disapprove of Obama's performance say that they disapprove because he is not liberal enough. That's a lot of people.
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Sat Jul-23-11 08:14 AM
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43. most recent poll shows drop to 71% |
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Sat Jul-23-11 09:21 AM
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45. The Gallup poll makes the distinction between Liberal and Liberal Democrat |
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Also a sample size of 1009 adults with a margin of error of +/- 7% is pretty damn terrible.
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