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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:57 PM
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Despite concessions and flaws, the Senate and House bills retain the necessary elements of reform
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-health17-2009dec17,0,5822333.story?track=rss

REHABILITATING HEALTHCARE
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Despite concessions and flaws, the Senate and House bills retain the necessary elements of reform.



As they try to round up enough votes to pass a healthcare reform bill, congressional leaders have been forced to make concession after concession on provisions sought by liberal Democrats -- the lawmakers who've been the driving force behind the effort to remake the U.S. healthcare system. The proposed government-run "public option" for uninsured individuals was weakened, then restricted, then all but abandoned in the Senate to appease moderate Democrats and independent Joe Lieberman of Connecticut. An alternative that would have given uninsured individuals ages 55 to 64 the option to buy into Medicare was dropped when Lieberman complained that it was no better to his mind than the public option. Senators also have rejected a proposal to help consumers obtain less expensive prescription drugs from Canada and Western Europe, and the House overrode a provision that would have allowed individuals who received government subsidies to buy policies that covered most abortions.

The news media's focus on these debates made them seem pivotal and cast the concessions as major retreats. But as much as we may have liked some of the provisions that have been jettisoned (and disliked others), their loss doesn't gut the legislation. The core of the healthcare reform effort remains intact. Either the House or the Senate version of the bill would bring about a historic improvement in our healthcare system. The bills aren't perfect; each has shortcomings, some of them serious. But the legislation is getting better in important ways as it inches toward the finish line.

From the start, the primary purpose of the healthcare reform effort has been to accomplish three interrelated goals. The first and most pressing of these is to rein in costs, which have significantly outpaced inflation and economic growth. For taxpayers, the looming disaster is Medicare's hospital trust fund, which analysts predict will become insolvent by 2017. Over the next decade, the cost of private health insurance is expected to double. The skyrocketing cost of insurance is one reason the ranks of the uninsured are burgeoning, with thousands of Americans losing their coverage daily.

The second goal of the legislation is to extend coverage as broadly as possible, by mandating insurance coverage for all Americans and providing subsidies to help some afford it. The third is to improve the quality of care, which should also help slow the rise in costs.

None of these objectives is easy to achieve; in fact, Congress has repeatedly rejected ambitious efforts to reform the healthcare system. The difference this time was the widespread support from the healthcare and insurance industries. The year began with doctors, hospitals, drug manufacturers, insurers, business organizations and consumer groups agreeing on the problems and committing to support a reform effort. Although the agreement frayed as lawmakers started proposing specific solutions, much of the friction has been around the edges of the bill, not its central elements.

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Again, the current versions of the legislation aren't ideal. The House would pay for its bill in part with a hefty surtax on the wealthy, and the Senate in part by taxing the most expensive health insurance policies. We'd prefer a broader-based approach, such as a reduction in the tax exemption for employee health benefits. The House proposes too large a tax on employers that don't provide health insurance, while the Senate's penalties for those who don't obtain insurance seem too weak to force compliance. And both bills could do more to bring about the cost savings that various industry groups pledged to achieve as part of the reform. Even with these flaws, however, the legislation would lay the foundation for a system that makes medical care more available, affordable and effective. Those are the right goals, and there's no reason to give up on them now.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 01:58 PM
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1. Still trying to pick up that turd by the clean end???
:shrug:
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mullard12ax7 Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:04 PM
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2. Despite throwing women under the bus and kissing criminal insurance co's. ass
The American people want health care, not health insurance. We don't want some "foundation for a system" that we know is already corrupt, broken and full of criminals. Now go ahead and ignore me and the majority of the American people, it's what shills do.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:08 PM
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3. The pressure mounts for reform and advancement ...despite those spiteful GOP MFKRS...America will
win with better health care...

The GOP are nothing, they advance shit, and they promote HATE and DIVISION....NPD and Psycho..they bully their way...

Not this time....

KnR
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:11 PM
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4. Not with this bill. as it stands: it must die.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:19 PM
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7. Or be massively fixed
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 02:19 PM by Zodiak
Starting with the removal of the mandate with the IRS an an enforcement arm...keep the subsidies...kill the mandate.

And we need to get rid of the REPUBLICAN idea of allowing health insurance companies to market across state lines like credit card companies.

Then I might say that the good in the bill outweighs the bad.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:20 PM
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8. It can not be passed and "fixed" later.
If it can be fixed before passage, ok .
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:23 PM
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11. Agreed
I do NOT buy the fix it later argument.

The Democrats blew that whole concept when they promised to fix what was wrong in NAFTA.

More than ten years later, we are still waiting for those fixes even though it is destroying our middle class.

A promise to fix a bill later is the equivalent of saying "shut up now so we can tell you to shut up later"
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:35 PM
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15. Agreed
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:29 PM
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13. Its all part of Social Evolution....sometimes its for the better...and other times not
Obama has raised the stakes in Governance...esp compared with Bushies Rape of the Land and Piggy banks...he is doing the best he can under withering fire from all angles,,

The GOP like to pick on failures as a measure of good or bad....ya never see them Pubs happy with success...unless its for THEMSELVES ONLY..

They fail the test of Fairness, Benevolence, and for the Common Good..

All the GOPiacs want is DOMINATION and Control...They are not for US..they are for themselves and buddies....In GOP World, we are under them buses
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:12 PM
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5. Good analysis.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:18 PM
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6. Sorry, it's a big lie
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 02:21 PM by Zodiak
No mention at all of the fact that insurance companies are now allowed to go across state-lines, starting a regulatory race to the bottom. What part of "cost control" is that wonderful little aspect of the bill?

Without an analysis mentioning BOTH the good and the bad IN FULL, then this article is just an opinion piece. Heavy on the rhetoric, and light on the facts.

Available means nothing without stats...affordable means nothing without numbers, and effective means nothing at all without a clear picture of ALL of the rules for prescrips, copays, denials of service, etc.

I actually read a good deal of the summary bill, and there was precious little to sink one's teeth into and loopholes so big a truck could drive through.

Plus the main regulator is gong to be a political cabinet level appointee...which means that the minute you have a Republican president, you have NO REGULATION.

This is a feel-good piece that says NOTHING about the contents of the bill. It just tries to look reasonable by saying "some bad things are here" and then focusing 100% only on what is good without mentioning the SPECIFICS of what is good.

Propaganda.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:28 PM
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16. Bingo Propaganda.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:21 PM
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9. Some people hate facts...
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:22 PM
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10. Apparently most of all, people who post one-liners and call that an argument n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:25 PM
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12. Really?

I find all of the support for this bill as having the foundations of a great reform confusing.

Why?

Because they don't have any important details.

Here is what we need to know;

1) What is the MLR going to be.

2) Does it have a sunset clause?

3) Will the OPM establish plan parameters for this bill.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:33 PM
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14. Kill the bill. It's worse than doing nothing. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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