Their hatred of him will be their undoing

[whosinpower]

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that all this bickering of how to bring debt back into managable terms will have on the economy - it ERODES CONFIDENCE. It PRESERVES uncertainty. No sane person would willingly invest, or hire, or explore new business possibilities under conditions so cynical. You won't spend those dollars - you will hang on to them - because they just might be your last. This will have a devastating effect on main street - and also on Wall Street. Say good bye to any recovery. Say hello Depression.

So, the GOP - against the wishes of Wall Street, of many well known economists want to keep this game going on and on and on - with small step by step incremental increases along with debt reductions....they want to drag it out - especially and most especially because 2012 is election year.

They hate him so much they will entrench a depression.....and blame him for it.

BUT - I believe if elections were held today - Obama would win in a landslide. So - this is the pickle of their hatred.

If they actually did something that would be good for the entire nation - Obama and the democrats would actually have more difficulty.

Look at what happened with the FAA shut down. Everybody thought (silly) that airfares would reduce because there were no longer taxes being collected.....surprise! NOPE - The airlines promptly raised prices to absorb the savings. There is GOP ideology at its highest - and proves beyond a doubt that their concept fails.

Look at ten years(?) of Bush tax cuts. Where are the jobs? Where is the growth? Evaporated by businesses absorbing any savings and leaving the workers scratching their heads wondering how to put food on the table.

I have been critical of President Obama for bending over backwards to try to get along with them. I have been critical of him, not so much because of his compromising rhetoric, but because I think he beleived at the end of the day - they might bend just a little if he bent allot. They will not bend. You cannot reason with irrational people.

Why do I think Obama would still win - after so much disenfranchisement and dissappointment? It isn't because of Bachman, or Romney or whoever they put up to run. It is because they, as a party are bankrupt of anything other than rabid ideology - and every single time they bump up against Obama, their hatred is obvious for everyone to see. They own their actions now. Every single fucking "no" belongs to them.

And yet, this debt ceiling issue should not be about elections. SHOULD NOT. Herr Boehner - you made it so - and so your party owns the consequences of such. If the economy sucks (and under his plan - there is no doubt it WILL suck)- it is now on YOUR head, and yours alone. That is the consequence of not compromising. Too friggin stupid to realize your own intractable ideology is going to destroy the republican party.....and the nation.

AND - if Obama loses - what will you have gained - a nation bankrupt and broken, and mired in a deep depression.

[tallahasseedem]

1. I think your post is spot-on...

they've actually pushed it farther then I could ever have imagined and that's sayin' something!

Recommended.

[woolldog]

2. That would be very

Shakesperian if it happens

[disentanglesoc]

5. Intelligence

Obama is smarter than people give him credit for. A President gets his real power in his second administration. It will take four years to replace the imbeciles Bush put in place. And the most important thing Obama needs to do is to eliminate obstructionist in the congress. Which he is setting up now. then we well see if he makes good on his promises before the first election. With a progressive democratic congress, and his people in place then he can turn on the big money interests.

[shellgame26]

7. well-said

A fresh voice of reason amidst the cacophony of wilful ignorance and hysteria around here.
Welcome!

[pnwest]

14. I think he's a brilliant strategist.

I've thought for a while now President Obama is just going along to get along, doing his best to keep the peace during his first term. Nothing too radical, too unpalatable for the undecideds and independents, thereby securing their votes for a second term. I think we'll see a more left agenda during his second term, at least the laying of groundwork for the change we seek.

[Indykatie]

3. Indeed Their Hatred Will Consume Them

It will also serve to stiffen the spine of Democrats to support our president more aggressively, including those who have been critical of some of his actions. We must understand the barriers he faces with the republicans who will do anything to destroy this agenda. I still marvel that he has been able to accomplish as much as he has given the resistance of his detractors. Thanks for your excellent summary.

[AndyTiedye]

4. Very Very Kicked and Recommended

:kick:

[Proud Liberal Dem]

6. Hope all those idiots whom promptly voted their own idiots into power

are happy now. :eyes: :banghead:

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

8. K&R!!!!! Amazingly brilliant post!! n/t

[slay]

9. We lose if Obama loses, and we lose if he wins as well

it sucks - he won't stand up for us - but he sure stands up for the banksters and his corporate buddies. voting for Obama is barely better than voting for a republican - and i'm watching him RIGHT NOW quoting fucking Reagan! this guy is a fraud and a liar who is not on our side.

[Safetykitten]

10. No, ignoring their hatred will be his undoing.

[sudopod]

11. Exaclty. This isn't some magic fairy tale Star Wars bullshit.

Hateful bastards win all the time in the real world.

[Armstead]

12. I agree with you about the GOP -- But the problem is that Obama keeps....

legitimizing them.

He himself is undercutting the public perception of the GOP as rabid by constantly saying "They have good points" and also by conmstantly saying the Democrats are equally culpable for these messes.

[otohara]

13. Their's, What About The Left's Hatred?

you can no longer say they, them, their - when every day we all read cringe worthy posts about President Obama, here on DU and other progressive, left leaning sites.

[MessiahRp]

15. The left has every right to be angry. You can only be kicked directly in the balls so many times...

before deciding this person is no longer your friend.

[otohara]

16. Fine, But It's No Longer Their Hatred

that will be his doing.

and with that, President Perry, Vice President Palin and God will be the result.

[MessiahRp]

19. Typical. "If you dare speak against our President or vote for someone else....

you elected the worse option." Nice that the only thing Obama has going for him is he's less of a lunatic. Not, his policies are 'THAT DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT'. You can't make that case because he's been a Republican President since day one. Not a Tea Party President but a Republican President. And since your allegiance is to a man and not to party principles (the same principles that have defined whether or not you are a Democrat for 70 years, well then, it seems you're not voting Democrat either.

Rp

[otohara]

20. Oh For God's Sake

It's him or them!

Sadly it's the lesser of two evils again and I have no control over who the Democratic candidate is this time. President Obama is our nominee, if someone primaries him, they will loose.
You're just going to have to wait until 2016 to vote for someone else besides Obama.

This isn't about me.

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[Fearless]

21. It will be America's undoing unfortunately.