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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:22 PM
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Keep speaking, Dr. Dean, you've outraged the out of control Congress & White House, and speak for me
Most of us know that if everyone allows this to take the course it's been running for months with the Congress & the White House, it's going to lead to the health insurance industry coming out smelling like a f*cking rose to investors - meanwhile - the people will be forced to take coverage from these crooked death-panel insurance firms who care nothing about our lives!

I know because I used to work for one when I was young and paid medical claims in the 90's. I remember how harshly the medical review staff was on claims and learned eventually that they were being squeezed by the higher-ups to save $$$. I tried paying everything I could, and only regret not paying for one claim that I still wish I went against the rule on, but point is - these companies only care about profit - not health.

Dr Dean is standing up for the people who are suffering to even get by, and God forbid they have any medical crisis come up. It seems like the lobbyists and big campaign donations have those in Congress & the WH bought & paid for, before we even cast our 'Change' votes.


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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:26 PM
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1. + 1 gazillion.nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:10 PM
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25. I'll see that gazillion
and raise you a Brazillion.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:26 PM
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2. Spot on -- Go Dr. Dean
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:27 PM
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3. Rec'd. Dean speaks an inconvenient truth the flunkies don't want the public to hear.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:22 PM
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34. Precisely!
Does anyone remember the angry mobs forcing the repeal of Medicare Catastrophic Care back in the 90s?

You'll see them pop up again when they see the combination of premium increases, taxes and penalties hitting people's wallets and pocketbooks!
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:30 PM
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4. WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT PREZ
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 05:16 AM
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19. ya know, he still could be one day. We need a reformer, if these people who are so very upset all
across this country keep up the populist views they have going this year - man, I tell ya, we're gonna need rough n' tumble speakers like Dean to stand up for what's right.

I so appreciate Dean fighting to make this bill everything it can be if we're gonna get it whether we want it or not - and we need everyone pitching in to let people know we want our voices heard - more progressive issues - less capitulation with Joementum!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:20 PM
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26. I would vote for him.
My dream - Dean/Clinton
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:22 PM
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27. Me, too. nt
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:08 PM
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31. my dream Dean/anybody decent n/t
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:44 PM
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5. People who get caught with their hand in the cookie jar seldom appreciate the light
of truth being forced upon them.

The fact is, the entity that will be helped most of all by the current Senate bill is the health care insurance companies.

Mr. and/or Mrs. Average American will be hard pressed to pay another monthly bill, which basically amounts to a tax, with soaring unemployment and the cost of everything rising except for pay checks (unless you're a CEO on Wall Street).

Dr. Dean deserves more credit and more respect from the White House and Congress than he's received.

I'm tired of the bought and paid for government in this country.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:45 PM
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6. K & R. Rahm picked on the wrong dog in this fight. nt.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:10 PM
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9. Rahm!!! Couldn't stand him years ago, and now everyone of us knows why. And you got it right, they
started a fight with one tough dog! Dean has righteous anger and the facts behind him. God bless him.

How many more have to die needlessly so these millionaires & billionaires can lives greater than the kings of the past thousand year? We need full coverage and the best possible outcome here, and everyone should be championing Dr. Dean's fight for the best bill possible - not decrying him as irrelevant - clearly he's UBER relevant because the WH went after him!

That's why he needs our support!
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:59 PM
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7. Watch Ed Schultz tonight or check on his website if you can't get cable.
I think Ed is going to really champion for Dean and his viewpoint.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:07 PM
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8. Will Do!!!
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:28 PM
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10. on in a half an hour! thanks
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:41 PM
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11. Thanks for the heads up
But I usually watch anyway. Thank goodness we got guys like Big Eddie and Dr. Dean with us.
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Mnpaul Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 04:16 PM
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45. Ed did a good job
The first 6 minutes or so is an excellent rant.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34485069#34484806
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:50 PM
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12. He speaks for me to. Run in 2012 Dean and I will vote for a true lib
liberal.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 06:06 PM
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14. Ditto
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 06:06 PM by MissDeeds
I am so glad Dean refuses to be muzzled. He's speaking up for the people who most need true HCR. Gee, isn't speaking up for the little guy what the Democratic Party used to be all about? Oh. That's right...we've 'changed'.

Go Howard!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 08:04 PM
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15. I'd very highly consider him. He's fiery for justice, and we need someone to stand up strongly for
rights for all, not capitulate and triangulate every situation into a watered-down glass of lemonade you spit out.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 09:35 PM
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16. .....
:thumbsup:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 06:20 AM
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21. Same here
Obama has lost me. I hung in there as long as I could - I campaigned for the man! But he won't stand up to big moneyed interests - the war, health care, the ever increasing gap between the rich and the poor - all of it. We can't take 8 years of this, and we can't take a repubilican. I am ready to support Dean right now for a run in 2012. Obama (probably that cocky bastard Rahm) has treated Howard like shit and now it's biting him in the ass as Howard has no need to suck up to him and can feel free to tell the truth. Dean/Kucinich/Sanders - our best hopes out of this mess.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:51 PM
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13. k&r for the Good Doctor Dean. Kill the bill. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 12:10 AM
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17. k & R
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 12:43 AM
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18. K&R... nt
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 06:14 AM
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20. K&R - We need Howard
and we may well need him to challenge Obama in 2012 if he can't show some real leadership. This is getting embarrassing for us. Not only does Obama keep most of the crap Bush did, as well keep on many people Bush hired/appointed, there were NO investigations of the Bush era crimes, he's escalating the war in Afghanistan, done nothing on DADT, nothing to help solidify gay rights, now this horrible health care sellout, as well as the bank bailout -- this is NOT how Democrats should be and this is NOT change. Kucinich, Dean, Sanders - show um how it's done please!
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 06:50 AM
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22. Dean's speaking out will probably hinder further capitulations to JoLo, Lincoln,...
and other conservaDems, and that's a good thing. With opposition growing on the left as it has, I don't think the White House or conservative Senate Democrats can afford to let this bill become even more pro-corporate and anti-citizen.
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 06:51 AM
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23. I reget that I have only 1 Rec! nt
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 10:22 AM
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24. No cost controls + Mandates = Disaster
Pretty simple equation.

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Garam_Masala Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:46 AM
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47. You got it exactly right
but the blind followers do not see logic.
Love is blind, I guess.
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bluestateboomer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:22 PM
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28. BIG K&R!!!
:spank: :spank: :fistbump: :fistbump: :patriot: :patriot:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:35 PM
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29. K&R.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:57 PM
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30. K & R....
Why do we ..on the left..allow such great defenders of the people and the Constitution like Dean and Kucinich be pushed out of the places of power?
We desperately need to start standing up for the ones standing tall for us. We must not keep on allowing others to chose for us and we must stop cutting our own throats by allowing the media and the corporations to rule.
By All thats Rightious..WE ARE THE PEOPLE DAMN IT AND THIS NATION BELONGS TO US~~~~!!!!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:52 PM
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36. St. Staz, we don't really ALLOW it, more like it's jammed down our throats via the media
onslaught that's called network news and commentary. No individual who threatens the corporate hegemony will ever be allowed an ongoing national forum for his/her ideas.

Those of us who do not have millions of dollars to throw into the fray are being outspent and outmaneuvered at every turn. The ruling elites learned their lessons well over the last two millenia and are not about to give power back to the rabble.

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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:07 PM
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37. While I agree that we have been out maneuvered and out spent..
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 03:09 PM by winyanstaz
I have a hard time just giving up without a struggle I guess.
I have always believed it is the darkest just before Dawn...and I hate giving up a sinking boat until after it's gone down. :P
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:11 PM
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38. Good. I won't give up either. Too bad we have no idea if we're at midnight or 5 a.m.
Also, I'd like to point out that it's always best to SWIM AWAY from a sinking boat, lest it pull you under with it.

Keep the faith!!
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:29 PM
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40. You too :)
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:09 PM
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32. meh, no one speaks for me.
Dean speaks for himself, his opinion is worth something. Just don't totally agree with him.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:19 PM
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33. Keep going, Howard!
Fighting the good fight, for the people -- way to go!
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:25 PM
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35. K&R
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:22 PM
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39. Maybe DU should be renamed "Dean's Underground" or Dean's Army Underground...
I'd proudly be a part of that group!
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:43 PM
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41. K&R (wish I could Rec more than once....) (nt)
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:47 PM
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42. k & r with extreme prejudice
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:42 AM
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46. I'll pretend I rec'd it, since I can't. And even to the last second, I hope that Dean keeps
pointing out the flaws in the bill so that when the House & Senate meet up, they try to force in the most progressive "for the PEOPLE" policies.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:49 PM
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43. Absolutely.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 04:13 PM
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44. I believe that we need someone like Dean
to help us organize and be a progressive force outside of the regular election cycle.

If someone like Dean, with the people's ear, were to step outside of the self-perpetuating system of corruption that we call the election cycle, and lead the people in constructive rebellion against a system that no longer works for us, I would use every resource at my disposal to support that rebellion.

I am available for marches of protest and advocacy, I am available for boycotts (and already boycotting), I am available for general strikes, and I will put my financial resources behind that kind of organized effort.

I have written in multiple posts: Our elected officials will not serve the people until we make them more afraid of us than they are of their corporate masters.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:41 AM
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48. Oh he's still speaking alright, and walking back his "kill the bill" comments
because it has been improved since last week!

:rofl:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:03 PM
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49. Dean was called a "sellout" when he supported HCR by the same folks who cheer him now.
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 12:07 PM by ClarkUSA
Now, he's walked back his "Kill the Bill" comments hard this morning on MTP and praised Pres. Obama hard work on the
issue. He also said the bill is improved and wants more improvements out of conference. He sure sounds like he supports
HCR again.

I hope he still speaks for you and all those who gave you recs.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:34 PM
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50. of course he wants HCR. Where does kill the bill & start over imply he doesn't want HCR? also,
he wants the best improvements out of conference, and it's called politics - he is using his well respected voice that gained back to back Democratic victories in election cycles, something I don't think I've seen in my life, to speak out on the crappy amendments in the HCR bill that the Senate is considering.

Dean is awesome and yes, he speaks for me, as I know there's plenty in this bill that is good, and plenty that's not good, and he can use political rhetoric to help change the arc, and I support him for doing so, friend.
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LastNaturalist Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:04 PM
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51. Isn't Dean that talking head pundit?
Like Olbermann, Hannity, Maddow, O'Reilly, etc.? Yeah, I can form my own opinion.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:12 PM
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52. Very lovingly K'd and R'd...
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