jefferson_dem
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:28 PM
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breaking: Dem leaders are all in pelosi's office...and everyone has signed off on deal.... |
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Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 03:29 PM by jefferson_dem
:hide: breaking: Dem leaders are all in pelosi's office, i'm told. and everyone has signed off on deal. waiting on Boehner. http://twitter.com/#!/samsteinhp/statuses/97764852508000257
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:30 PM
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1. Did Grijalva change his mind? |
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:32 PM
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2. All respect to Grijalva, I'm not sure he's considered part of the Democratic "leadership". |
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He's Co-Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:34 PM
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3. I always thought leadership refers to the top three |
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Pelosi, Hoyer and Clyburn.
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:37 PM
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5. I wondered if that leadership has already counted the votes |
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They'd have to know how the Progressive Caucus views the deal. It now appears that the Progressives are planning a caucus vote tomorrow.
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:38 PM
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6. May also include Caucus Chairs Larson and Becerra. |
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:34 PM
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4. So the leadership still has to convince the members and good luck to them |
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:39 PM
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7. My Not-So-Bold Prediction: At least half of the Dem caucus will vote "yes". |
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:43 PM
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9. Caving for the sake of the big money boys who have the world by the short hairs |
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:42 PM
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8. But... but... but.... this is a *BAD* deal and no *REAL* Democrat would sign on!!!111!!!! |
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:46 PM
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11. Well....This is a bad deal and Democrats should not sign onto it |
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Sorry if not wanting to give the GOP everything it wanted is poutrage
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:32 PM
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15. Lest we forget Democrats are OBSSESSED with CAVING |
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:43 PM
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10. They just announced on MSNBC that the Progressive Caucus is |
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meeting at 2:00 pm tomorrow.
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:21 PM
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13. 2 PM tomorrow might be too late. The fix might already be in by then. n/t |
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Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 04:21 PM by totodeinhere
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:33 PM
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17. LOL...Like the Progressive Caucus will have any say. Means nothing |
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The deal will be done without them.
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:38 PM
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20. I predict 80% of them will vote in favor |
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:48 PM
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Sun Jul-31-11 03:50 PM
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Pelosi will round 'em up.
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:22 PM
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14. I trust NPelosi, my representative, to not deliver a shit deal. nt |
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:33 PM
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18. Nancy caved on the Public Option, dont forget |
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:42 PM
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22. She did but only because the Senate ConservaDouches made the PO impossible. |
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Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 04:54 PM by AtomicKitten
It was a protracted, bungled* process and I think Nancy yielded to place a marker to build on. And that's the conundrum Democrats face. The 50-state strategy worked but brought us an assload of conservative Democrats. 2010 wiped out about half their caucus in the House, so I say we try again to field and promote populist candidates.
* On edit, the process was bungled when Max Baucus held up the Affordable Care Act in his committee. Further, he evenly split those on the committee (R and D) instead of taking advantage of the Democrats' advantage of majority. That was epic BS.
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Sun Jul-31-11 05:00 PM
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25. She got it voted down the first time with holding back Dems to let Conservative Repugs do the deed.. |
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Second time she was forced by Reid to get her Dems to support the Repugs because Hank Paulson came into her office and on "bended knee" begged her to pass it.
It will be interesting to see how Pelosi and Boehner do on this. Nancy is Minority now...and it she wants to regain her position as Speaker ....she will need to hold the line. She has too many Dems who are in danger of being redistricted out of Congress because of the Koch Brother's and RW assault on States where they have gotten the ability to redistrict Progressive and Liberal Reps out and allow Tea Party and Conservatives to run.
This is going on in States all across America where the Money Folks have gotten the local "Chamber of Commerce," Birchers and Libertarians and just Tea Party Crazies to now be able to get rid of the Progressives, Libs and Dems who were really some good people.
So...coming soon to your state...your Reps that we Dems could count on are going to be gone. Nancy knows this. Unless she's ready to retire and doesn't want Speakership/Control anymore...then she will CAVE...If she looks out there and see's hope and gets support from Obama she will HOLD FIRM...and work out something that will allow Boehner to save face ...but save our Dem Social Programs.
The suspense is killing me.
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:32 PM
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16. God I hope they kill the amendments |
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:38 PM
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19. But, but...Pelosi's supposed to stop Obama the Crazy Capitulator! |
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What could POSSIBLY have happened?
He must have used his Jedi mind trick powers and brought HER over to the Dark Side.
:evilgrin:
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:42 PM
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21. it sounds like the GOPers are having problems with conservatives. |
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Sun Jul-31-11 05:02 PM
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26. I don't any deal is going to be reached |
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I don't think this bill will pass either because the crazies will not go along with the GOP to pass it.
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Sun Jul-31-11 04:53 PM
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24. It's good to see you so excited about this...but, wouldn't count the "chickens" yet! |
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because no one knows which ones the Fox ate.. Final body count is yet to be determined.
:-)
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Sun Jul-31-11 05:20 PM
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Get a grip. I merely relayed a tweet with the breaking news, silly.
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Sun Jul-31-11 06:29 PM
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30. Yes...quite excited.... |
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Sun Jul-31-11 06:44 PM
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You really shouldn't project your hyperventilations onto others.
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Sun Jul-31-11 05:27 PM
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28. GOP on verge of huge, unprecedented political victory |
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Sun Jul-31-11 05:54 PM
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29. The note at the end reads that this may not be as bad as he |
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thinks it is so I am assuming this whole thing is not engraved in granite right now.
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