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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:07 PM Original message |
Granholm: "Give him (Obama) majorities in Congress, and then we can talk." |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Obama said in 2010... |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
141. That campaign rhetoric was not enough to counter all the praise Obama had given the GOP .... |
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griffi94 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. i thought he started with majorities |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. He started with majorities in both branches, |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. Obama never had a CONTROLLING majority in congress for more than 5 months, GOP filibuster rule chang |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
159. Liberals dont understand that we did not/do not/will not have the votes for their aganda. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
180. How did the Repugs ever get away with that filibuster rule change? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
97. Majorities, yes. But not a filibuster-proof Senate, especially one that contained |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #97 |
160. What part of "We did not, do not, will not have the votes" do liberals not get? |
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GillesDeleuze (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
145. ding! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. We DID do that in 2008. They compromised away their majority. |
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littlewolf (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. THAT !!! |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
181. Yep. Then there was that! |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. That majority didn't count, I guess. |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. This times a billion. n/t |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Saved me from having to say it |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. I'll second that (or third or fourth or whatever) |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
98. Armstead, I thought you were smarter than this. How many times do many of us have to keep |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #98 |
112. I hear you ... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #98 |
116. Please see my response to your other post below |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Exactly. Used every excuse in the book to do Jack Squat. nt |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. Obama did NOT have a controlling majoirty in congress in 2008!!! It's a GOP meme to say he did |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
67. What filibuster rules were changed? |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Abusing the rule, that's what changed about it... |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. That's not a rule change |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Stop asking questions you know the god damn answers to. |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
105. Now that's a rude post |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Damn right it was rude. I'm rude to people when they spout garbage. |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Your rudeness only works against your efforts |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #110 |
132. I don't have an "effort". This is an internet discussion board where people talk political BS. |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #132 |
142. Um, what? |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
117. did they ever actually call them on the filibuster threat? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
161. Obama would have tried, but the media would have just censored him or cut his mics. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #67 |
189. our "60" included 6-7 blue dogs and lieberman. it never was 60 votes. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
101. Obama was not sworn in until 2009. n/t |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
72. Bullshit. Pelosi's majority passed some very progressive stuff. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
86. + a bunch |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
114. Are you kidding me? Or, ... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #114 |
124. I'm in love with you!!! :) +1,000,000!! n/t |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #124 |
174. So is my wife ... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #114 |
137. I see that you admit that our BIGGEST problem lies within The Democratic Party. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #137 |
163. Loved your post |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #137 |
173. I was too young to remember how LBJ did stuff, but ... |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
193. Just imagine if he had the majority Bush had when he was Prez? |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. What happened the last time we did that? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Placate Lieberman and Nelson, while shoving aside progressives and liberals |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. No more lectures to us. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. So those of us |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. No but things like the OP are intended to silence people who are not happy with him |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. Things like the OP |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
99. Not intended to silence, Armstead. Intended to inject reason *AND FACT* into |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #99 |
113. Well sometimes people see reality differently -- or at least interperet it different |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 07:12 AM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Bottom line: The essence of the OP is correct. Rather than dismiss it, |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #123 |
133. I agree with you on that...But I do see it as a chicken-and-egg thang |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
107. I could live to be 400 and I will NEVER UNDERSTAND |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. I hear you! |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #107 |
115. Whose playing the victim? |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. This response from you makes even less sense than usual |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Whatever.... |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #121 |
151. I've found that whenever someone starts a statement with "whatever" |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #151 |
153. Kind of like all your responses |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #153 |
172. Awww... Was that your friend? |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #118 |
175. Hush truth ... |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
7. We did. He sided with the Republicans, against them, repeatedly. Give us a reason to try again. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. Another condescending pundit who thinks nobody remembers they *had* a majority 2008-10 |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Wasn't the majority around for only 49 days? n/t |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Partly because Democrats didn't take care of business in Massachusetts |
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sundancekid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
136. not to mention all the "progressive" folks who stomped their feet, |
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bluescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #21 |
190. Wrong! The Democratic Party tried to help |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
47. and extended the Bush tax cuts with those majorities |
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NatBurner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. we got an extension of unemployment benefits in that deal, no? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. it was triangulation |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. It was compassion, which is more than I can say about those who attack him for compromising. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #66 |
119. Except it didn't. The idea (for whatever reason) is that the fuckload of fail |
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theaocp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. Dear Gov. Granholm, |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. The President might do better by asking someone other than the former Governor for advice |
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Moosepoop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
106. Why would that be? |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
150. I wish... |
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theaocp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Fail. |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #152 |
156. LOL |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. coz he did so WELL when he started with one, right? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. FACT: He never had a solid-veto-proof Senate majority (i.e., Joe Lieberman and DLC Blue Dogs). |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
100. And not only did FDR enjoy huge Democratic majorities, these two critical points |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #100 |
176. yeah, all dat! |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. Too many folks are only interested in attacking Pres. Obama for everything to acknowledge this fact. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. You've got that right! |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. He already had majorities in BOTH - for two years! |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Pres. Obama never had a solid-veto-proof Senate majority (see Joe Lieberman and DLC Blue Dogs). |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. So lets see.. a Dem prez, senate, house =not enough - now needs to be filibuster proof, and no DLC |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Are you planning on working for majorities in the House and Senate this year and next? |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
183. did you work for majorities in congress in 2010 |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. When your opponents have sworn on stacks of bibles that their only wish is to defeat you.... |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
177. Well stated |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. +1000 |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
125. +1000 |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
182. how ddoes working against the election of democrats help? |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. These guys are taking crazy pills |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
75. My household stands with you. And |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
20. give him ANOTHER majority in congress, and then we can talk. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. CAVEAT: He never ever had a solid-veto-proof Senate majority (see Joe Lieberman and DLC Blue Dogs). |
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griffi94 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. exactly |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Yes, it's clear that Gov. Granholm's words are falling on deaf ears from the dumb rhetoric I read. |
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griffi94 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. here ya go |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Thanks for illustrating my point so clearly. Again. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
78. obama's mentor, joe lieberman? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. LOL! That slippery 2008 primary meme again? Are you serious? |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
102. you'll have to forgive me if i look at the mans actions.. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #102 |
170. Obama clearly rejected the DLC's overtures. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #79 |
171. I try to tell the Liberals that Obama direclty rejected the standing ovations from the DLC. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Obama never had a CONTROLLING majority in congress for more than 5 months, GOP filibuster rule chang |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
77. so what got done when that precious little window was open? |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
103. it's only a two-minute prayer |
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adekoye (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
130. Please stay at home and don't vote |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #130 |
138. oh, i'll vote, n00b.. |
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adekoye (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #138 |
139. Sure thing |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
26. He already had that - and accomplished very little |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Um, he never ever had a solid-veto-proof Senate majority aka. Joe Lieberman and DLC Blue Dogs. |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Just how many excuses can people make for Obama failing to lead or act like a progressive? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Facts are not excuses. Gov. Granholm words are falling on deaf ears, I see. |
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GillesDeleuze (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
146. weak in the pulpit, |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Hate reality much!?! Cut off Obama's arms, bashers complain and call not have any arms excuses |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
155. I guess Mathematics is an unknown science to you. |
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JNinWB (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. They can't HEAR you |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. LOL! You nailed it. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #44 |
126. Perfect definition of ODS!! Congratulations! +1,000,000,000,000....!!! |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. he campaigned for one of the Blue Dogs |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. It was pro-forma. So did Bill Clinton and every other Democratic leader. She lost. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
166. Touche |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. See, |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
70. What a load of shit - accomplished very little - thats a fucking lie and you know it. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
48. Yep. And it's ridiculous to take the position that everything could have been |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. FTFY |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Deleted message |
FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Plenty was done..... |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I know right. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. That's ridiculous too |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Honestly, the truth lies somewhere between everything and anything. |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
58. Question |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
59. Too many people on here who don't understand how Congress and politics works, reminds me of |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. I think you're right on ALL counts. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Those who ignore congress wanted to see Obama's birth certificate at one time :wink: |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
108. I absolutely agree. The comments in this thread alone prove your point |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
73. Apparently, keeping us divided is more pressing... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
76. Another "shut up you Commies" thread. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Another ridiculous strawman fallacy. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. So you agree he has been a weak President? nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. That's another strawman fallacy. Want to shoot for a hat trick? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. If Congress controls the situation, then the President does not? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Review Civics 101 and study up on the roles of the three branches of gov't. for the answer. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. If you don't want stupid answers. don't ask stupid questions. nt |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
83. If Obama had the majorities to pass a progressive agenda |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. He was not elected to make excuses, and he will not be re-elected that way either. nt |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. That didn't answer the question. nt |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. It answered the excuses you advanced. |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. So you're saying there was no majority |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Whut? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
91. In 2008, the American People gave the Democratic Party: |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Exactly. Lead, follow, or get out of the way, the nation needs REAL change, not excuses. nt |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
96. Wait! None of us here at DU have been SCREAMING this for many months now! |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-16-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
104. Obama was sworn in January 20, 2009. BUT ------ |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #104 |
135. + too true |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #135 |
165. Yup- and it was the far left who blew Kennedy's seat, not centrist strategty or popular HC mandates |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-19-11 03:21 AM Response to Reply #165 |
179. How did the far left blow that seat when the far left went out |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #179 |
184. plus all the numbers |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #104 |
164. That excuse impresses Swing voters. I know because I tell it to them all the time. |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
120. We already did that. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 01:55 AM Response to Reply #120 |
122. See comment #105. n/t |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #122 |
185. see comment 121 |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
127. Let me be another one to point out the obvious, |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
128. Oh, please. |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
129. Its not a matter of driving legislation through Congress, its a matter of fighting for us. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
131. out of touch party hack |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
134. K&R! n/t |
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Clear Blue Sky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
140. Didn't he have majorities for 2 years?? |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #140 |
147. See comment #105. n/t |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #140 |
169. WRONG. He was forced by congress to keep all those Bush economic advisors, for instance. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
143. He had a majority. He did nothing. He doesn't have a majority. He's doing nothing... |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #143 |
187. That sums up my position. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
144. And what did he have when he entered the WH??? |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #144 |
148. See comment #105. n/t |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #144 |
167. WRONG. That is myth from the professional left. Obama was powerless to fight for the PO. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-17-11 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
149. No More Dems! |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
154. Sad, but I don't think Hillary would need this as an excuse. nt |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
157. Respectfully ma'am we did that already and he pissed it all away.... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
158. Exactly- then we can go back to the way things were b/f the midterms. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
162. She is so wrong |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #162 |
178. A Strong, Dedicated and Focused Team ... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-18-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
168. If we give Obama majorites, then he can finally let congress fire all the Bush era appointees... |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #168 |
188. Your schtick is becoming trollish and absurd. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #188 |
191. So long as we agree that Obama is forced to keep his GOP appointees until we elect more DEMS |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
186. Congress has nothing to do with him taking the banks' side |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #186 |
192. Next you will tell us that Congress did not force him to appoint Bush era Republicans. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
194. Not having majorities didn't keep him from picking centrists, bankers, CEOs, etc. for his admin. |
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