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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:26 PM
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Just Because You See Something Coming Doesn't Mean You Can Stop It
Edited on Fri Sep-02-11 01:28 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
I remember when I was a kid K-Mart was the place to shop to get "stuff cheap" . Then this company called Wal-Mart appeared. I am sure the folks at K-Mart saw Wal-Mart taking away their customers. But they were helpless to stop them. Now, K-Mart is a hollowed out company; a shell of itself.

I remember when I was in college in the late seventies and America was in a funk and folks were souring on the president. I am sure Jimmy Carter saw it. Heck, he gave a speech on the topic.

Which brings us to now...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:28 PM
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1. Jimmy Carter got screwed by the GOP team of Reagan and Khomeini. NT
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:32 PM
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2. This Era Is Eerily Reminiscent Of The Late 70s, Sans The Foreign Policy Debacle
Edited on Fri Sep-02-11 01:33 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Lots of events that seemed beyond the president's control and you just knew it wasn't going to end well. God help us if Perry is this generation's Reagan.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:06 PM
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13. Well, in some ways, maybe, but there are no lines for gasoline, no acid rain,
and even with the bullshit, economic woes, and other issues, I think there's more day-to-hope nowadays. The decade and then some following Vietnam was thick with some nasty shit, and even when the economy turned around for the "haves," the have-nots were still not leaping for joy.

OTOH, I rarely saw homeless people before Saint Ronnie. When he cut off the funding for the mental institutions, those poor crazyass people were shoved out in the streets to die. Now no one notices them, they're so common.
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notGaryOldman Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:17 PM
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14. No acid rain?
Come up and visit New England!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:34 PM
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3. Not trying means you will not stop it. Period.
And that brings us to now.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:36 PM
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4. It's Really Not Intended As A Defense Or Criticism Of The President
Edited on Fri Sep-02-11 01:36 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
It's like a sinking business. The owners see it coming, do everything to avoid it, and yet in the end the business closes it doors.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:39 PM
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5. Really? K-mart is a hollowed out company? Where did they get the cash to buy Sears?
K-mart (the company) is doing better than ever.

Faulty assumptions, which brings us to now...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:46 PM
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6. By doing to Sears what WalMart is doing to them.
If you think K-Mart is doing better today than it was in 1975, you are delusional.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:56 PM
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8. I Provided Real Statistics In Post Seven
Edited on Fri Sep-02-11 01:57 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
I hate argument by anecdote but I can literally go into my neighborhood K-Mart and there will be less than twenty shoppers there. I can go to my local Wal-Mart and the place will be packed.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:54 PM
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7. K-Mart Is A Joke. It Won't Make It Out Of This Decade (Book It)
Edited on Fri Sep-02-11 02:05 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Wal Mart's sales were $403 billion in 2010. K-Mart's sales in 2010 were $37 billion.

I assure you when I was a kid in the 70's Wal-Mart wasn't generating ten times as many sales as K-Mart.

I don't even think there was a Wal-Mart outside of Arkansas in 1970.


ON EDIT- I WAS WRONG. K-MART'S REVENUE WAS FIFTEEN BILLION IN 2010. THAT MEANS WAL MART GENERATED NEARLY THIRTY TIMES AS MUCH REVENUE. COMPARING K-MART TO WAL-MART IS LIKE COMPARING THE IDAHO STAMPEDE TO THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:19 PM
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9. Come back when you can ...
see what's coming.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:20 PM
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10. I See What's Coming
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:31 PM
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11. I'm don't think Obama could care less:
He'll get richly rewarded for following orders. The only thing we're useful for is keeping up the pretense that Voting can "change" anything. That's a sick joke, indeed.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:49 PM
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12. +1
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:34 AM
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15. I Agree With The Latter. Disagree With The Former.
I believe like Jimmy Carter he wall well intentioned but was overwhelm by circumstances.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:17 AM
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19. Would you care to add some actaul facts to that statement?
Who is giving the orders?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:20 AM
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16. Doom and gloom this long before an election
For all people calling Obama "helpless" due to not having 100% of the power and having to share it with Congress and the Courts, this makes the ones with the actual power (the voters) appear to be the helpless ones.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:21 AM
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17. He Could Be An Absolute Monarch And Not Be Able To Fix This Economy
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:23 AM
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18. Of course. The problems are not even limited to this country.
But people will find ways to deal with them.
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