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Tue Sep-06-11 10:00 PM
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We may be extremely upset with Obama.... |
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...but the alternatives, at this point, are unthinkable.
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:02 PM
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A repub president could repeal all the very progressive things Obama did in office www.whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:03 PM
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2. As I said to someone, I'll happily vote for the lesser of two |
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evils (their words) than the GREATER of two evils! I'm not stupid.
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:11 PM
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4. I've voted for the lesser of two evils most of my life |
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I've rarely been disappointed.
The closest I came was when I voted for Johnson over Goldwater only to see him turn the Vietnam conflict into the biggest clusterfuck in US history (up to that time anyway). But even then I had to consider WTF would Goldwater have done that would have been any different?
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:09 PM
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HE'S NOT AS BAD AS THE OTHERS!!! :D
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:11 PM
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Clinton was not anywhere near close to being as progressive as Obama and yet it's Obama that takes the heat from the PL and not Clinton...
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:25 PM
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P.S. Clinton was also a raging triangulator that was effectively a Republican.
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:44 PM
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:shrug: I dunno. I can never figure out Rape-Publican doublespeak. NGU.
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Wed Sep-07-11 10:20 PM
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I like a president that's like me, horny. :)
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:13 PM
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Because a lot of us are not so upset. If you just survey the posts at DU you might think everybody is upset, but you'd be getting a pretty skewed vision of what's going on.
People may well be upset with the general state of the economy and various things going on in various places, and especially with Republican obstructionism and game-playing that is causing the economy to stall, etc. But not everybody is upset with Obama.
Just sayin'.
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:19 PM
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7. Yup and Obama knows it. nt |
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:23 PM
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9. If that's the reality, then that's the reality and we have to begin |
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to get ready for 2016. We'll have four years to either get a third party going, really get behind real progressives, whatever.
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:31 PM
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12. Most DUers and most D. activists thought they were doing that... |
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:49 PM
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15. I understand. But that shouldn't stop us from trying again. nt |
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:23 PM
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8. So we're being hostaged by the President into voting for him? |
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Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 10:26 PM by MannyGoldstein
That's just swell.
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:43 PM
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13. I am tired of it also |
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But what do we have at the Presidential level?
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Tue Sep-06-11 11:05 PM
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Never voted for lesser of two evils - never will.
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Wed Sep-07-11 05:22 AM
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Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 05:23 AM by quaker bill
with the greater of two evils? I have been voting for a long time and have never to my knowledge voted for a candidate I fully agreed with, because I have never had the option. I have always voted in every election for the candidates I felt would do the least harm.
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Wed Sep-07-11 09:29 PM
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28. That has never been good enough |
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Wed Sep-07-11 08:38 AM
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20. "Perfect is the enemy of good" |
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Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 08:41 AM by ifyousayso
So what will you do? Stay home? I think dropping out and not voting is like neglecting a civic responsibility. We could very well end up going "from the frying pan into the fire."
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Wed Sep-07-11 09:28 PM
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local democrats - the ones that want what I want for this country.
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:59 PM
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16. "Prisoner of circumstances" but also a weak leader |
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Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 11:01 PM by ifyousayso
I voted for Obama, but I am extremely disappointed with him. I am sad to say he has turned out to be a very weak leader. I think he has good intentions, but not the leadership skills needed for the job.
I think he's too nice, too quick to compromise, and willing to give up too much. For example, Obama reportedly said, "The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states." Regardless of whether you agree with that statement or not is irrelevant. My point is that it would be absolutely foolish for anyone to cede so much of what his adversary wants before the negotiations even begin. Make your adversary negotiate for what he wants. Don't just give it away immediately.
While I am disappointed in Obama, I also recognize he is working against very strong forces. The economy is in the tank. The Democrats no longer control both houses of Congress. Big business and Wall Street both support conservatives (what's new?). There's a radical conservative movement. And...the rotten cherry on top is covert racism against the president. As I heard former President Clinton said recently, "When you're president, you have more power to help more people, but you also are the prisoner of circumstances as well, and countervailing political forces more."
Despite all that, I think if Obama were a stronger leader, he would hold up better in the fight. Sadly, I don't think Obama has what it takes to rouse people in the current economic situation. I don't know who writes his speeches, but they are horribly limp. It's too bad Obama doesn't have Winston Churchill to write his speeches.
When it comes down to it, though, I will "hold my nose" and vote for Obama in the next election.
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Wed Sep-07-11 12:06 AM
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18. I'll be voting for President Obama |
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Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 12:07 AM by LatteLibertine
I'd rather not be ruled by the Koch brothers through Perry and the GOP.
What they have planned for the average citizen is fairly grim.
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Wed Sep-07-11 08:52 AM
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I first ended up voting for Hillary in the primaries because I thought she was the lesser of two evils (although now I am convinced she would have been practically identical).
Then Obama convinced me to believe in hope and change. I thought MAYBE, just maybe this guy was "the One".
Now I am back to voting for the lesser of two evils.
Someone tell me...where does that get us in the end?
When do I get to actually vote for someone who is on our side :(
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Wed Sep-07-11 09:39 AM
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24. He WAS the first candidate in quite a while |
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that I felt I was voting FOR, and not just holding my nose and voting against the other guy.
I will vote for him again, but it will be with nostrils plugged.
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Wed Sep-07-11 11:11 AM
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25. And that makes a really great bumper sticker! |
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Hope and change? No. "The alternative is worse."
Yeah, that'll work. Talk to me the day after Election Day.
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Wed Sep-07-11 11:45 AM
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26. Sorry, but I'm not "extremely upset with Obama" |
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Nice try. I will gladly support him.
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Wed Sep-07-11 09:45 PM
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29. I am NOT upset with President Obama. I will proudly vote for Obama in 2012 :) |
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