This was NOT a speech to be given from the Oval Office or on the steps of the Capitol

[EffieBlack]

as some suggested last week during the scheduling kerfuffle.

He delivered this speech exactly where, when and how he needed to do it.

[Fresh_Start]

1. I concur and I was one of the people who suggested otherwise nt

nt

[femmocrat]

6. Same here. Eating crow now....

He was speaking to the Congress more than us home folks.

[orpupilofnature57]

2. The how was the most important part ,like the Boss.

[joshcryer]

3. Exactly.

[Tarheel_Dem]

4. Agreed. (nt)

[bahrbearian]

5. YUP.

[Evergreen Emerald]

7. Thats what I was thinking during the speech.

No wonder the republicans opposed it. They knew it was going to include a spanking! It would have been much less effective in a different venue. And really, "you must pass this bill" should be the refrain...as it is the issue we are all talking about: that the republicans will not pass anything because they want to tank the economy in an effort to gain back the power they lost. The bill is in their court.

[Logical]

8. Then, once again, why did he pick the fight to begin with?

[EffieBlack]

9. What fight did he pick?

[Logical]

12. He picked the GOP debate night to make a point and then immediately changed it. Why???

[vaberella]

17. Uh he never picked the fight.. If you were paying attention--you'd know it was an Aid's mistake.

When Obama was alerted, he changed the date. It was an honest scheduling mistake made by humans. Get over it. Freakishly enough it did increase his overall approval percentage by a few meager points. But this was not a "fight."

[geek tragedy]

10. That was a mistake. They do make them. nt

[angee_is_mad]

11. KICK!!!

and recommend!

[politicasista]

13. Kick

Nice job President O! :kick: :patriot:

[bigwillq]

14. I will have to agree with that.

Congress is the bigger problem.

[Scurrilous]

15. K & R

:thumbsup:

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[vaberella]

18. WTF? No one is lying. He wanted it Wednesday...was told there was a problem.

Then changed the date and now your bitching he's a liar? At this point I have no idea where you're coming from. If he's a liar then you're a joke.

[slay]

19. "He delivered this speech exactly where, *when* and how he needed to do it."

No, the when was Wednesday at 8pm, not Thursday at 7pm when everyone on the west coast is still at work all because boener threw a hissy fit and SURPRISE Obama caved again! it should be his new motto. hell even FOOTBALL was more important than his speech of lies which is why he went on at 7pm eastern. worst. president. ever. mr. jellyfish - no backbone at all.

[vaberella]

20. I think for many people..they preferred that Obama did it on Thursday b/c he got the last word.

There were no Republicans eating at his ass and trying to dismantle it at the debate. Then the focus would be entirely on him and it would hopefully dwarf the weak statements made there. For many people it worked out better this way. I think that's what that is about. However it has nothing to do with Obama being a liar and I don't know what that has to do with anything. You think he's a caver---then there's nothing that can be said because you'd never be satisfied and you've managed to litter your discontent all over this board so meh.

[EffieBlack]

25. Wednesday at 8, people on the West Coast would still have been at work, too

He actually got MORE play because he did the speech on Thursday. Had he done it on Wednesday, he would have been in competition with the Republican debate.

Thursday worked out MUCH better.

FYI, he did not "cave" since he had no control over when he could speak to Congress - that was completely up to Congress, not the President. He asked to speak on Wednesday. Boehner told him that Wednesday wasn't good, but invited him to come the next night. There was neither a "hissy fit" nor a "cave" - it was a simple scheduling process.

But, of course, that clearly means nothing to anyone who believes that President Obama has no backbone and insists that he's the "worst.president.ever"

I really feel sorry for you - it must be miserable to view politics and the world through your prism.

[Fruittree]

21. "Obama is a professional liar." - Why?

Oh, I see, because you said so...Everyone has a right to an opinion but it's always better to have something to back it up and hyperbole makes anything said suspect if not totally ridiculous.

[slay]

22. Ask him

most politicians are.

[woolldog]

23. Not a criticism but:

no one on the west coast even saw the speech.

[wiggs]

24. You can't believe how much RW radio is ripping on the speech. It's too loud,

he's not a good speaker, he's lying, he's a radical, he's just spending more money on wasteful programs, JFK is a republican compared to Obama, he's ordering congress around, he should be writing the bill instead of giving a speech, etc etc etc. And that's just in the 15 minutes I could stomach from the Mark Levin substitute.