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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 05:20 PM
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Judge rules health care law's insurance mandate unconstitutional
Edited on Tue Sep-13-11 05:22 PM by Cali_Democrat
Of course the judge is a Bush appointee


Judge rules health care law's insurance mandate unconstitutional
By the CNN Wire Staff
September 13, 2011 5:33 p.m. EDT


(CNN) -- A Pennsylvania federal judge ruled Tuesday that the provision in President Barack Obama's health care initiative requiring individuals to purchase health insurance is unconstitutional.

The bill, which was passed by the Democratic Congress and signed into law last year, has faced a deluge of lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of the individual mandate.

U.S. District Judge Christopher Conner said the provision violates parameters established by the Constitution's commerce clause.

"The power to regulate interstate commerce does not subsume the power to dictate a lifetime financial commitment to health insurance coverage," he wrote in the ruling.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/09/13/pennsylvania.health.care.ruling/


I think the chances are good that the Supreme Court will strike down the Health Care law. It's essentially a GOP court.

Obviously a public option or medicare for all would not have had this issue.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:55 PM
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1. not at all clear how this court will rule. sure, they'd love to give obama a defeat, but
they also love governmental control, and the mandate was originally a republican idea.

moreover, it could be argued that it's actually a tax on income, completely permitted by the 16th amendment.

if you make more than the poverty level, then you have to pay the extra tax, which is waived if you buy insurance; alternatively, you get a completely offsetting credit for the extra tax if you buy insurance. it's also waived or credited if insurance would be more than 8% of your income.

regardless of how it's drafted, it's arguably a straightforward income tax.

so even if the supremos don't buy the commerce clause argument, there's also the income tax argument.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:57 PM
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2. The Supreme court will rule it constitutional, the mandate is there to benefit profiteers /nt
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pepito Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 11:05 PM
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3. makes sense
how can the government make a person buy insurance from a private for profit company?
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 11:15 PM
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4. Usually by buying people within the Government, this time it hit a temporary snag /nt
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