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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:51 AM
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NBC's First Read: A trap for Republicans?
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A trap for Republicans?

Yesterday, South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint summed up the potential political peril for Republicans on President Obama’s jobs legislation. “If we vote for this plan, we’ll own the economy with the president, and he desperately needs someone else to blame it on,” DeMint said. “If we vote against it, he’s going to try to say Congress blocked his ability to create jobs.” Indeed, on paper, the politics on this job bill potentially is in the White House’s favor. The question is whether Democrats unite around it and whether -- as DeMint puts it -- Republicans allow themselves to get trapped. While that Bloomberg poll we cited yesterday found a majority (51%) doubting the jobs bill will create jobs, a new Gallup poll finds that 45% want their member of Congress to vote for the legislation and just 32% want their member to vote against it (23% didn’t know enough about it)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/15/7775535-first-thoughts-a-trap-for-republicans
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:54 AM
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1. Here is the Campaign
The jobs' bill you mentioned.

Get us out of wars, which people support by figures up to 80 percent.

Not cutting social security, which people support by up to 82 percent.

Raise taxes on the rich, adding a few more brackets, and throw capital gains taxes in with regular income, so Warren Buffet and his crowd don't get taxed less then their secretaries. Figures from 60-70 percent want this.

Nationalize these, and make sure every democrat repeats them endlessly.

Were they to do this, they'd probably get 60 Senators, even though there aren't too many republicans in the 33 that come up for a vote.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:55 AM
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2. The GOP will do nothing for the American people
They only have one thing on their mind, winning the next election at all cost.

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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:05 AM
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4. And neither will some Democrats
It might hurt the oil and gas industry you know, or be tough on those wealthy donors.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/15/us/politics/democrats-in-congress-balking-at-obamas-jobs-bill.html?_r=1&hp
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:02 AM
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3. Hey DeMint, this is what you do.
Vote for the damned bill in one piece. Take credit for it. Make some jobs. Try to get votes. Win/Win. You're cutting off your nose to spite your face when you vote against this legislation.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:07 AM
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5. K & R
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:46 AM
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6. ever notice that the media and the republicans are always about the politics
and never about what's actually best for americans?
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:59 AM
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7. +1
It's really sick.:puke:
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 12:02 PM
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8. Yep.
Sickening, ain't it? I say we keep repeating that observation until everyone gets it.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 11:07 PM
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11. All the time. They focus on politics, rather than...
...policy. They focus on who makes a good 'candidate' rather than who knows enough and has skills to actually LEAD. This kind of distraction is hurting our country.

Do they not know? Or do they not care???
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 12:10 PM
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9. News flash, DeMint: you ALREADY own this economy.
YOUR PARTY presided over the crash. YOUR PARTY cuts tax rates irresponsibly. YOUR PARTY got us in a useless, pointless, criminal war. YOUR PARTY held the economy hostage over tax breaks for billionaires.

Obama has no illusions that you'll pass this package. And the message that you don't give a fuck about middle class americans will resonate, BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:14 PM
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10. All politics - no consideration for what the country needs
It's all about how it affects the Republicans in the next election.



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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 11:08 PM
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12. I agree. I blame the media as well as...
...the politicians who play these games.
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