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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:13 AM
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Poll: Unless we can turn this around in the next year 'the enthusiasm gap' will kill us next year..
Same as it did in 2010 when the GOP was much more excited about voting.

from a CBS News Poll:

Republicans appear more energized than Democrats at the outset of the 2012 presidential campaign, but have not coalesced around a candidate. Even as the party’s nominating contest seems to be narrowing to a two-man race between Mitt Romney and Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, a majority of their respective supporters say they have reservations about their candidate. Half of Republicans who plan to vote in a primary say they would like more choices.

But there is an 18 point partisan enthusiasm gap that currently favors Republicans: 44 percent of Republican voters are more enthusiastic about voting in 2012, while just 26 percent of Democrats are. This is a reversal compared to October, 2007, when twice as many Democrats as Republicans expressed more enthusiasm about voting.

Bottom line? Obama has alienated some parts of his base without winning over independents and centrists. That can't have been the plan.

www.dailykos.com
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:15 AM
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1. Yup, this is a problem.
As against any Republican I clearly and definitely support Obama.

But I find it hard to be enthusiastic.

It just isn't there.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:59 AM
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7. If a vicious animal was chasing you, would you be 'enthusiastic' about running away?
or would you be just kinda like "nah, don't feel like running right now"?

If any one of the current media-darling republican presidential candidates were to actually be elected, it will be a disaster of epic proportions, that will make the Bush years look like great times.
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:01 AM
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8. Logically you are absolutely correct.
And I will do what I can.

I just can't promise how much that will be.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:31 AM
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2. I am sure Obama will win
and will do so without me GOTV in Pike County PA.
I spent a great deal of money and time in 2008. Now wall street has Obama's back and will get him another 4 years..
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:32 AM
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3. Dont worry.. once a GOPer candidate is selected and the campainging heats up..
the stark differences become clear and most Democrats will realize how important it is to keep Obama in the WH and enough Democrats in congress to keep the GOPers from destroying this nation.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:44 AM
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4. That's what happened last year here in WI. Republicans were fired up
and turned out to vote. Democrats were disappointed, disenchanted, and did not vote.

If things in the economy are not markedly better in another 8 months or so, or decidedly heading that way, Obama is toast no matter how much we think the current Republican candidates are jokes.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:49 AM
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5. K&R
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:53 AM
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6. Yes, that's exactly what happened here.
I ran across a lot of anger & frustration among traditional Dems when I was phone banking for Feingold. They didn't vote for Johnson, they just stayed home.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:41 AM
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16. Isn't that sad? It cost us Feingold, and what did Barrett have to do with what was happening
in D.C.?

Choices, meet consequences.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:44 PM
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25. Angry, frustrated people vote their guts, not their brains.
And the decision not to vote is still a vote.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:12 AM
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:54 AM
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21. At least in WI I think that the base is fired up now since we did get
two GOP State Senators recalled last month and we will be recalling Walker, too!!
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:48 AM
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9. I see no indication of things turning around. We will enter 2013 with total Republican control.
Unless a totally unexpected monumental event occurs we are screwed.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:13 AM
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:00 AM
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10. Apples and oranges
In Oct 07, both Parties were looking at Primaries and a General. This cycle, the Republicans are all Primary frothy, much 'decision making' for them to do that Democrats will not be doing. They are thinking about a choice starting in Feb 2012, 9 months in advance of the general election.
Comparing engagement of those voting in 5 months to those voting in 14 months is a bit on the absurd side, and I say this as a person who criticizes Obama policy all the time.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:11 AM
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12. At the moment I am not at all enthusiastic
but move the calendar forward to this time next year and the potential for a Perry Presidency and I will likely be busting my butt for Obama. The thought of the nation going the route of Wisconsin or Florida will be a huge motivation for me to get active.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:16 AM
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15. "Enthusiasm Gap" = Crybabies who need to grow the hell up ! Progressives have had more PROGRESSIVE
laws passed under Obama than they've seen since LBJ. Anyone who needs more "enthusiasm" in the face of that stark reality and the prospect of a President Perry and more RePUKES in Congress either has a screw loose or needs to grow the hell up.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:43 AM
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17. I'm sure that attitude will get people to the polls
:eyes:
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:11 AM
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19. LOL....+1
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:11 AM
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18. See, your thinking is part of the problem.....
You tend to think that excitement does not matter. You must not understand advertising either. If you think 2008 was about people hating McCain then you are confused. Obama got people fired up ON PURPOSE. He sold himself as someone he ended up not being.
He did not "Change Washington" like he said he would. He did not fight like he said he would. So people are disappointed now.
Sure people will vote against the GOP candidate this election. But not vote FOR Obama. Get it now?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:55 AM
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22. Well that is true, but it sure didn't help us last year and unless it gets
better next year, and I'm hopeful it will, we could be in for a tough time.
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:10 PM
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28. I feel GREAT now!!!!
The "cry-baby" thing is a sure winner!

Maybe we coukl go door-to-door and actually KICK fellow Democrats real hard while calling them diaper-wetters?

:dem:
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:11 AM
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20. I donated $2000 in 2008. None this time. But I will vote for him.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:00 AM
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23. 2010 was a midyear election
And Republicans always are more enthusiastic. Their base never whines that the Rs aren't doing enough for them. That is why they have so much power when they are a minority.

You'd think the left would learn from them, but nope. Just keep trying to keep us all down. Can't stand winning, can't sit around and complain and be a victim of "the corporations" that way.

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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:19 AM
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24. You all just don't understand "11 Dimensional Chess:"
You always WIN by LOSING. :hangover:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:48 PM
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26. You'll understand a foot way up in your ass when Republicans win.....
unless that's what you want. Cause there are some here
that are working for an Obama loss. They were sent here
for that exact purpose. To keep enthusiasm down. These
assholes need to be identified and kicked to the curb where they
belong. The fact that they would kill our future is criminal.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:39 PM
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29. Just amazing how people don't blame the GOP for anything, but quick
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 07:40 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
to point he finger at one man. What about the rest of the Democratic Party leadership? Why aren't they fighting? What about the Democratic Party rank and file/voters? Why aren't YOU fighting?!?

See my signature and think REALLY hard about it!

All I see is the same bullshit here on DU, day in and day out. People complaining and bitching on a fucking message board instead of working to motivate more progressives to run and win office.

Really, it's tiring and pathetic!
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:05 PM
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27. Dems will be very enthusiastic
at making sure Perry does not win

Obama winning was not a vote for Obama in a lot of cases it was against Bush, What Obama did very well was connecting the dots between McCain and Bush. People voted against Bush's 3rd term

That will be the same motivation against Perry
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