MUST READ! Rove email!

[medeak]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/27/1010778/-BREAKING

[crazylikafox]

1. "The bigger the lie, the more likely people will believe it."

Well, that's classic Rove.
But I'm assuming this is satire, right? It sure captures Rove in a nutshell.

Worth the read....

[Inuca]

2. Actually, I do not think that

the purpose of the diary author was to "capture Rove", but quite different.

[Zen Democrat]

4. "Someone said" -- yeah, it was Goebbels!

[elleng]

26. Yes, it was, and 'they've' been practicing it for many years.

Dems, being nicer (no joke; it's just true,) can't bring ourselves to do it.

[medeak]

6. yes...satire sadly

but believable with all the emos out there

[Donnachaidh]

3. Can we make up a room in Gtimo for Turdblossom?

Seriously, he needs to be re-educated.

[Champion Jack]

5. 1. Main mission: Infiltrate all liberal web sites...

1. Main mission: Infiltrate all liberal web sites, posing as disaffected liberals with liberal-sounding user names, icons and signatures. (Reference Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, FDR, Smedley Butler, Bill Clinton, etc.)

2. Express. Disappointment. With. Obama. (Whining pays double!) (jk!)

3. Push primary challenge. Push third party. Push Green. Push Socialist. Push write-in voting. Push non-voting to "send a message."

4. Effective memes/talking points:

"Obama is a DINO."
"Obama is no different than a Republican."
"Obama has sold us out."
"It feels good to vote your conscience."
"It feels good to stick to your principles."
"Don't be trapped into voting for the lesser of two evils."
"We need to punish Obama and the Democrats by not voting."
"We'd be better off with a Republican in the White House."
"Obama is a war-mongering, torturing, corporatist shill."

[AtomicKitten]

9. #4 sounds familiar.

4. Effective memes/talking points:

"Obama is a DINO."
"Obama is no different than a Republican."
"Obama has sold us out."
"It feels good to vote your conscience."
"It feels good to stick to your principles."
"Don't be trapped into voting for the lesser of two evils."
"We need to punish Obama and the Democrats by not voting."
"We'd be better off with a Republican in the White House."
"Obama is a war-mongering, torturing, corporatist shill."

Maybe those here spewing those talking points should were matching T-shirts so we can tell them apart from the teabaggers.

[Champion Jack]

10. +1,000,000,000 !

[unblock]

7. it's hard to identify satire these days, but i don't think rove would quote goebbels directly...

[WingDinger]

8. Dumbass concern trolls pased Koz by, and landed here at DU.

[EffieBlack]

11. They think that by whining on a liberal web site they're engaging in some sort of "activism." AMEN!

"Libs are lazy and spoiled, not savvy and proactive like us. They think that by whining on a liberal web site they're engaging in some sort of 'activism.' They're 'holding Obama's feet to the fire.' They actually believe that DC policymakers or their staffers somehow have the time to read every ridiculous liberal blog. They don't get it that the only ones reading their whiny little rants are--wait for it--other liberals."

[Phx_Dem]

12. I love that this was leaked! Looks like we have some infiltration on DU.

All of these are very familiar here on DU.

1. Main mission: Infiltrate all liberal web sites, posing as disaffected liberals with liberal-sounding user names, icons and signatures. (Reference Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, FDR, Smedley Butler, Bill Clinton, etc.)

2. Express. Disappointment. With. Obama. (Whining pays double!) (jk!)

3. Push primary challenge. Push third party. Push Green. Push Socialist. Push write-in voting. Push non-voting to "send a message."

4. Effective memes/talking points:

"Obama is a DINO."
"Obama is no different than a Republican."
"Obama has sold us out."
"It feels good to vote your conscience."
"It feels good to stick to your principles."
"Don't be trapped into voting for the lesser of two evils."
"We need to punish Obama and the Democrats by not voting."
"We'd be better off with a Republican in the White House."
"Obama is a war-mongering, torturing, corporatist shill."

[JNelson6563]

14. lolz

I know. Obviously whoever wrote the parody was calling out those "activists", letting them know we know what they're doing.

Julie

[NorthCarolina]

30. LOL

you do realize this is a fake email right? In fact, there is a high probability you may have the responsible party in your buddy list here on DU.

[Cali_Democrat]

13. That "email" has already been debunked

It's a parody.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1828919&mesg_id=1829794

[NorthCarolina]

29. My guess it was written by somone, or a group of 'someones', who likely

haunt DU's GD: P as devout Obama supporters.

[MissDeeds]

34. Agree completely

:thumbsup:

[Enrique]

15. who am I madder at?

the people that post this sort of thing, or the people who believe it?

[Moosepoop]

16. I'm maddest at the ones described in the parody.

They do exist, and some exist right here at DU, just as at DKos. The author of the piece nailed them perfectly (and acknowledged in an add-on to the post that it was intended to "hold up a mirror" to those it described).

[Enrique]

17. "who cares if it's true"

that's the attitude I'm seeing.

Put out a total lie and then say it's holding up a mirror. Bullshit, it's a lie. "Who cares if it's true. I'm mad at these people for our political disagreement so I can post lies about them."

And then the people that believe the stupidest shit, obviously not thinking about it and probably not even reading it. "Who cares if it's true. I'm mad at those people so anything I read, even if it's a joke, even if it's made to sound ridiculous, I'm going to believe it's true. Whether it is or not, I don't give a shit, all that matters to me is that they're mean to a politician I like."

[Moosepoop]

18. "I'm mad at these people for our political disagreement so I can post lies about them."

Lies? Who was lied about, exactly?

[NorthCarolina]

31. I guarantee this type of bullshit will come back and bite them in the ass.

It's just setting up a false argument to back their claims, and then posting here so that they can rec away and say "see, I knew that's what was happening' as if it's some sort of magic bullet for them. Total fabrication and utterly delusional. The trolls on DU are not the ones critical of Obama's conservative tendencies. The trolls hide in DU's GD: P.

[Enthusiast]

28. I was thinking the same.

As if Obama deserved no criticism.

[Pisces]

19. I see lots of those people blogging on this board. Someone just suggested I should be ashamed of

supporting the President and that my agenda was clear. Of course my agenda is to reelect the President. I am posting on a democratic site, I would expect that to be normal.

[Enrique]

20. I see you're spreading this around on another thread

I hate Internet lies so much, especially the way they spread. Sometimes they pose as "satire", they're lies all the same.

[Bobbie Jo]

22. Do you hate misinformation, cherry picking, and half truths as well?

The double standard here is blatant.

[Enrique]

23. a fabrication is a different level

I don't want people to be saints, I know people are not 100% "fair and balanced" every time they express an opinion, that would actually be a little boring on a message board.

But to post a fabricated story and watch people believe it, without clarifying it's satire and without asking for it to be pulled when people are believing it, I can't understand that. In fact when this was posted before, the thread was locked, I don't know why this one is still up.

[Bobbie Jo]

24. Happens all the time.....

With all the misinformation, cherry picking, and half truths.

A fabrication is a fabrication. Taking part of a "truth" and spinning it without including the whole truth, is nothing more than a lie. It's purposely dishonest and there is a certain amount of intent involved.

See: Faux "News."
They've perfected the practice to an art form.

fab·ri·cate (fbr-kt)
tr.v. fab·ri·cat·ed, fab·ri·cat·ing, fab·ri·cates
1. To make; create.
2. To construct by combining or assembling diverse, typically standardized parts: fabricate small boats.
3. To concoct in order to deceive: fabricated an excuse.

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[Enrique]

21. I think this is a Karl Rove plot to make DUers look dumb

I can picture him laughing with Frank Luntz about how we're discussing this as if it is real.

[jimlup]

25. This is actually an article that is almost a month old...

Any further insight into this situation since then??

How do we know it is actually Rove's email. If I try to use this in an argument against conservatives they will call BS and I'll have to back up my source. Any suggestions?

[a kennedy]

32. K & R

+1,000,000,000

[Enrique]

33. medak, what do you think about people thinking this is real?

doesn't it make you feel bad to be tricking people, intentionally or not?

[medeak]

37. was taken in as well at first...but it's so plausable

Rove could write such!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. kick

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. kick again