This is an opinion, re: Nader and his attempt to screw up the 2012 election with a primary challenge

[Rosco T.]

Screw Him.
Screw any one that runs for him.
Screw any one that goes along with his idiotic, disruptive, damaging idea.

It's a waste of time.
It's a waste of energy.
It's a waste of money.

All it does is give the GOPoo ammunition for the real campaign that 'the dems don't believe in their own candidate, they had 6 people in the primary against him'

We need unity, not division, unless you want a President Perry.

Nader has already been caught taking money from the 'Thugs, palling around with the "Quitta from Wasilla" ...

Screw him and all like him.

Put your time, energy and money into retaking the House and getting 60 SOLID VOTES in the Senate. Re-Elect Obama to have that power in House/Senate.

This is an opinion, you want a right to yours, I have a right to mine.

[elleng]

1. I don't approve of his discussion/promotion of primarying President Obama, BUT

he is RIGHT ON THE ISSUES.

(Listening to him on Lawrence show now.)

[teddy51]

2. Yes he is right on the issues, but I don't approve of a Primary challenge either. n/t

[Rosco T.]

4. He may be right on the issues, but he's DEAD WRONG on the method.

His track record proves it.

[orpupilofnature57]

5. He was right in 2000 ,big deal he enabled the biggest Misanthrope...

ever to hold the job.

[WhiteTara]

7. He sounds good, but he is a repuke who never bothered to

change his party affiliation for any of his runs to destroy the Democratic party.

[CBHagman]

9. You know what struck me about that?

How impotent Nader seemed. Certainly he's talking about single-payer health care, working people being squeezed (and indeed exploited), etc., etc. But I haven't seen Nader pursuing any sort of strategy that ensures a groundswell of support for reforms. In fact I don't think he could rally the Harry Potter reading circle to attend The Deathly Hallows, Part II.

In any event, I don't think O'Donnell ought to bother bringing him back. Nader just sits there and rants, and it just sucks the air out of the studio.

[CBHagman]

10. You know what struck me about that?

How impotent Nader seemed. Certainly he's talking about single-payer health care, working people being squeezed (and indeed exploited), etc., etc. Of course that's the way things are.

But I haven't seen Nader pursuing any sort of strategy that ensures a groundswell of support for reforms. In fact I don't think he could rally the Harry Potter reading circle to attend The Deathly Hallows, Part II.

[YellowCosmicSun]

3. Agreed. Fuck these clowns!

[bluestateguy]

6. Nader is not, and has not been for many years, a Democrat

Hence he really has no right to try to shape the leadership and discussions about the future of a party that he clearly hates.

[sharp_stick]

8. Fuck Ralph Nader

and fuck all those that pimp this assclown out every four years.

[la la]

16. boy- do i agree with you, sharp stick---

yes, i do! although i'm sure he's done some good things--i'm sick and tired of him showing up before every pres. election and screwing with the hearts and minds of the public---at least the public who is listening to him---he and cornel west need to go back under their rock!

[Zoeisright]

18. Plus one billion.

I'll hate that dipwad forever.

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[elleng]

12. Nader's work/accomplishments:

Nader has started or inspired a variety of nonprofit organizations, most of which he has maintained close associations with:

Citizen Advocacy Center
Citizens Utility Boards
Congress Accountability Project
Consumer Task Force For Automotive Issues
Corporate Accountability Research Project
Disability Rights Center
Equal Justice Foundation
Foundation for Taxpayers and Consumer Rights
Georgia Legal Watch
National Citizens' Coalition for Nursing Home Reform
National Coalition for Universities in the Public Interest
Pension Rights Center
PROD (truck safety)
Retired Professionals Action Group
The Shafeek Nader Trust for the Community Interest
1969: Center for the Study of Responsive Law
1970s: Public Interest Research Groups
1970: Center for Auto Safety
1970: Connecticut Citizen Action Group
1971: Aviation Consumer Action Project
1972: Clean Water Action Project
1972: Center for Women's Policy Studies
1973: Capitol Hill News Service
1980: Multinational Monitor (magazine covering multinational corporations)
1982: Trial Lawyers for Public Justice
1982: Essential Information (encourage citizen activism and do investigative journalism)
1983: Telecommunications Research and Action Center
1983: National Coalition for Universities in the Public Interest
1988: Taxpayer Assets Project
1989: Princeton Project 55 (alumni public service)
1993: Appleseed Foundation (local change)
1994: Resource Consumption Alliance (conserve trees)
1995: Center for Insurance Research
1995: Consumer Project on Technology
1997: Government Purchasing Project (encourage purchase of safe products)
1998: Center for Justice & Democracy
1998: Organization for Competitive Markets
1998: American Antitrust Institute (ensure fair competition)
1998: Commercial Alert (protect family, community, and democracy from corporations)
1999: Arizona Center for Law in the Public Interest
2000: Congressional Accountability Project (fight corruption in Congress)
2001: Citizen Works (promote NGO cooperation, build grassroots support, and start new groups)
2001: Democracy Rising (hold rallies to educate and empower citizens)


In 1980, Nader resigned as director of Public Citizen to work on other projects, lecturing on the growing "imperialism" of multinational corporations and of a dangerous convergence of corporate and government power.<37>

[frylock]

14. oh he's just a selfish do-nothing..

the ONLY reason he did those things was so he could pull chicks. that's how selfish he is. :sarcasm:

[Rosco T.]

15. What he did is good, what he's DOING is what counts.

You're only as good as your last review. Nader is an ass.

[la la]

17. exactly!

[Bobbie Jo]

20. Oh look...teh LIST!

In 1980, Nader resigned as director of Public Citizen to work on other projects, ....

Namely, Ralph Nader, Inc.
 

[frylock]

13. goldstein!!1

[Kahuna]

19. Let the old goat howl at the moon. That's all a run would amount to..

Remember, running does not guarantee that he would be able to debate the president.

[treestar]

21. Amen, this says it all!

Too many also will remember 2000!

[Tarheel_Dem]

24. +1

:thumbsup:

Like Randi told Ralph, "We Can't Afford You Right Now".

[Gman]

22. Nader took money from the GOP in 04 to get on the ballot

and used GOP workers to gather signatures. He's a bought and paid for tool.

[JoePhilly]

23. I mentioned this to my sister ... she said "Who is doing what?"

She does not follow politics. But she leans DEM.

She had almost no idea who Nader was.

[libinnyandia]

25. Nader's presidential campaigns

     Two questions I've always had: 1 What did Nader want to
accomplish in his presidential campaigns ? 2 Was Nader
successful in meeting his goals ?