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Mon Sep-26-11 09:52 AM
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Mitch Daniels - a seemingly calmer, smarter, not bat-shit crazy Rick Perry? |
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I listened to him a few minutes on Dianne Rehm and was getting worried - until he explained that Social Security is a ponzi scheme that keeps better off Americans from stepping into take care of the neighbors the way they want to.
He's dangerous when he first starts talking, but then as he keeps speaking, the crazy comes through.
Pre-emptive apology: I am a depressive, so technically I am crazy, but there really is something wrong with people who have created their own fantasy world and think it's real!
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Mon Sep-26-11 10:00 AM
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1. Nothing is stopping better off Americans from helping the poor |
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For instance, being willing to pay more in taxes (or give up some exemptions) to fund domestic social programs, maybe? Not demanding that we cut social programs and entitlement programs? Private charity is also nice but wealthy individuals and/or charitable organizations still can't distribute money and/or services as efficiently and/or effectively as government can. Also, as Michael Moore has pointed in several of his books, supporting progressive initiatives would actually benefit the wealthy in ways that they can't seem to recognize on their own. :shrug:
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Mon Sep-26-11 10:01 AM
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2. I heard it to. He's Rick Perry with better syntax and no Texas accent. |
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Mon Sep-26-11 10:04 AM
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3. If people had been so good at stepping up and taking care |
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of their neighbors, FDR would never have been successful.
How can people who believe Selfishness is a virtue ever be expected to step up and help their neighbor.
When one party is taught that People are in poverty by their own choices, lazy, druggie, alcoholics by their own choices. This cools anyone's conscience to believe they have an obligation to others.
The NEW Republican Party does not believe in any form of government help. Not even unemployment insurance. God forbid any form of welfare or public assistance, and health care is anathema.
So no matter how logical and reasonable a candidate may be, just understand their goal is to get rid of these programs. The choice could not be clearer. but own party does not have the gumption to stand up and make the case.
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Mon Sep-26-11 10:43 AM
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4. It goes beyond cooling people's consciences; if you believe that people |
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are in poverty as a result of their own bad choices, then if you help them, you become an enabler. Therefore, you should use "tough love" and let them hit bottom and decide to raise themselves out of poverty by their own bootstraps. Unless of course, the "mistakes" are made by rich people, in which case we have to help them. Thus, we bail out banks but people who are now underwater with their mortgages can't be helped because they need to learn from their mistakes.
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Mon Sep-26-11 10:46 AM
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5. Excellent Points!!! Thanks for pointing this out. So very true |
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and should be emphasized more. Thanks again.
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Mon Sep-26-11 10:52 AM
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6. Daniels, quoted by The Hill, on President Obama's economic policies. ---> |
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Edited on Mon Sep-26-11 10:53 AM by ClarkUSA
"He just inhabits a different planet... in that respect." http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/09/23/bonus_quote_of_the_day.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PoliticalWire+%28Political+Wire%29Appearances are very deceiving when it comes to Republicans. Under the veneer, they are all the same (Jon "We must stop the EPA's regulatory reign of terror" Huntsman, included): oligarchic/plutocratic Grover Norquist corporate suits.
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Mon Sep-26-11 11:08 AM
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7. He was on the Daily Show recently and had his ass handed to him |
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by Stewart...I live in Indiana and it was very pleasing to see this bastard ruined on national tv.
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Mon Sep-26-11 11:08 AM
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8. The same Mitch Daniels who said Iraq wouldn't need much aid..... |
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Edited on Mon Sep-26-11 11:09 AM by Historic NY
"The United States is very committed to helping Iraq recover from the conflict, but Iraq will not require sustained aid."
Mitchell Daniels, director White House Office of Management and Budget April 21, 2003
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Mon Sep-26-11 11:11 AM
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9. These people seem to not realize that in a city |
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(especially in large ones)one person could have 100's of immediate neighbors. How does one person take care of 100's of neighbors? I'd think putting money in a centralized fund that everyone contributes to would work. I wonder if there is something like that? :shrug:
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Mon Sep-26-11 11:14 AM
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10. Mitch Daniels is just as much a radical as the rest of them.. |
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Anti union,Anti Social Security,medicare,minimum wage...Glad that we have term limits in Indiana.. He sold the State to private investors. But like any good Republican,they would kiss his shoes
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