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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:10 PM
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OPINION: At this point in time, give the slate of the GOP candidates, anyone primarying Obama...
is nothing more than a shill for the GOP to attempt to plant the "Obama doesn't have the support of his party" meme.

It's a waste of time
It's a waste of energy
It's a waste of money

It's a waste of everything that could be used to secure the 2012-2016 office and build the Democratic seats in the House/Senate.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:11 PM
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1. K&R...
:thumbsup:

Sid
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:12 PM
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2. no one's primarying him
sorry to disappoint you. :-(
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:14 PM
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4. Who said I'm disappointed?
It would rank as the stupidest thing in politics in the last 200 years if anyone did.

(however the unreccers/primaryers are already out in force against this.. so you better tell them)
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:14 PM
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5. Lots of people here are advocating for that. n/t
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:13 PM
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3. Just wait for the "liberally-biased media"'s outcry (strangely missing in 2004)
about how a sitting president should still have a primary should the Dems bypass a primary like the 2004 Repugs did ...
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:16 PM
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6. At this point in time I've lost interest in the primary thing - what OWS is doing
is much more important in the long term. Not that they'll immediately cause big change - but at least people are thinking they might be able to resist now. That is more than I've seen in a long time and we can build on it.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 05:17 AM
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16. Generally I agree.
But sooner or later, the populist rebellion must be translated into political action. Unless Obama makes a sea change in his deeds, he remains part of the problem. Can he be forced by a populist rebellion to finally start trying to do the right thing? I hope so. But his combination of 1% advisors and naivete about bi-partisanship do not bode well for such a change, currently.

He is participating in the destruction of the ecosystem and the world economy. Unless his deeds change, his rhetoric of "consider the alternative" leaves me with no reason to vote, because both parties are destroying America. At this point, I support a primary challenge. I fervently hope I can be dissuaded by Obama's actions.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:17 PM
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7. That's bullshit
Obama should be primaried because he is a horrible leader and does not stand up for basic Dem values. EOM.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:21 PM
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8. What I posed is my opinion.. what you posted is yours.
Strangely enough, my opinion of your opinion is your opinion. Curious.

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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 02:31 AM
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15. Obama only looks good next to the GOP clowns
next to RFK or JFK he looks like Reagan - cause that's his hero you know. it's all a big fucking game and we're the ones gettin played.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 07:54 AM
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18.  +1 Can't get much clearer than that. nt
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:44 AM
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23. Agreed
Edited on Thu Oct-13-11 11:45 AM by MissDeeds
As it stands now, all we have to choose from are candidates who are right of center, far right, or on the lunatic fringe of the GOP. Great choices.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:21 PM
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9. You think veering to the right (again) is going to help pick up seats
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 08:21 PM by Doctor_J
next year?

Look for another bloodbath if the president continues to schmooze the Repukes instead of the people who voted for him in 2008
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:28 PM
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10. Try reading what I originally said without your anger..
.. unfortunately you're becoming one of those being played with this 'primary Obama' meme.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:34 PM
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11. I did. Again
you are of course insisting that anyone who tries to pull the president and the party platform back from Reaganomics/Bush Doctrine/kill-the-public-schools is a mole and sabateur. I say that NOT protesting those policies is suicidal.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:43 PM
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13. I'm all for free speech.. however in this time and this place.. it's the equivalent ...
.. of walking in a Hell's Angels bar and screaming "All You Pussy Bikers Suck!"

It's your right to do it, but you won't be happy with the results.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:36 PM
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14. given the slate of the GOP candidates, even a primary challenger would wipe the floor with them. n/t
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 10:00 AM
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19. Agreed. These idiots provide a perfect opportunity to challenge
the president to return to the Democratic Party.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 07:49 AM
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17. what are you trying to say?
that the "slate of the GOP candidates" is so strong that only Obama can win?

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 10:03 AM
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20. Thank You!
:toast:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 10:03 AM
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21. He needs pressure from the left to pull him back to the middle.
For the past couple of years he has been leaning too far to the right.

-Laelth
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 11:02 AM
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22. We're trying from our end ...
and if OWS doesn't propel him into populist rhetoric right before an election nothing will ...
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 02:57 PM
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24. The man who replaces Barack Obama will not be a GOP shill, thank you.
And I can't wait.
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 03:07 PM
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25. 2 "NO" votes on Obama here. Downballot only in 2012:
Let the GOP and their buddies the "New DEMs" take credit for their failed GOP policies. Time to root out the "New DEM" rot from our Party. Go back to the GOP from wence you came!
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 03:20 PM
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26. Come on, let the dreamers dream.
At least until the convention.
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