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Wed Oct-19-11 10:58 AM
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Even if you are disappointed in Obama...... |
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And I have been and still am disappointed in some areas.
But after seeing these idiot GOP candidates for president I am SO glad we have Obama to vote for.
And Obama is so much damn smarter than any of those idiots.
The only intelligent non-insane (relativity) GOP candidate is Huntsman and he is polling at 2%.
I might not be happy with Obama but for any real liberal or real progressive there is no other choice this election than voting for Obama.
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:02 AM
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1. Not voting for any republican is always an option |
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:02 AM
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2. Thats not good enough for some. nt |
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:13 AM
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4. The problem is, SOMEONE is going to occupy the White House. |
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It won't be held open because people aren't overjoyed about their options.
It's so basic to me I'm boggled by the fact that it still doesn't matter to some people.
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Wed Oct-19-11 05:54 PM
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40. Many are pissed at him because he didn't address their pet peeve, so they'll just sit |
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this election out.I'm referring to some, here, on DU. They are the same type, who, in 2000, voted for Nader for the same reason. Some say its the worse of two evils. That's quite a statement coming from so-called Liberals and "progressives." Maybe they should vote republican and they might get a chance to, really, see how their concerns are addressed.
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:12 AM
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3. voting for the lesser of two evils |
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is no longer option as far as I am concerned. Right now, I'm not sure that I will be casting a vote for president in 2012.
For any real liberal/progressive, there is a choice.
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:27 AM
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6. then you deserve a GOP president. |
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:36 AM
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We deserve better then Obama.
:grr:
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:43 AM
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13. I guess a whopping 82% of us disagree with you. |
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:56 AM
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16. if you want to hand the keys over the the GOP, you deserve every shred of blame. |
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Wed Oct-19-11 12:38 PM
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Wed Oct-19-11 12:43 PM
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Thu Oct-20-11 08:16 AM
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The campaign Obama or at least a small part of that Obama would be nice.
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Wed Oct-19-11 12:15 PM
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19. And you deserve a fascist dictator |
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Yeah, it makes as much sense as your illogical post. Voting for evil is evil, be it lesser or greater. Voting for incompetence and corruption is still a vote for failure be it lesser or greater.
Blaming Rethuglicans for "stopping Obama" is to give Obama a pass because he's weak. Not voting for weakness is not a vote for Rethuglicans.
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Wed Oct-19-11 12:16 PM
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20. nope, you'll be helping the republicans. try to spin it any way you like. |
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Wed Oct-19-11 12:22 PM
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You will be helping the Republicans by perpetuating a right wing agenda. :hi:
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Wed Oct-19-11 05:59 PM
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41. Thats the dumbest reason coming from someone on DU. They ought to have |
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a separate forum, here, for people who think like you.
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Thu Oct-20-11 08:15 AM
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I completely agree with you.
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Thu Oct-20-11 05:51 PM
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Go away then. You deserve to live under a GOP President. Not us. Just you.
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Fri Oct-21-11 01:59 PM
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57. If you're not in a "swing state" I suppose it is OK not to vote for President. |
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However if you are in a state where Obama won narrowly last time - e.g. North Carolina - you might want to get out and vote for Obama.
Yes, I *do* have my gripes with Obama. However I have many more gripes with the GOP. The Democratic candidate for President of the United States in 2012 is Barack Hussein Obama II. There is no primary. There will be no primary. The only way I can see that someone else becomes the Democratic Party nominee for President is if Obama were to pass away (and I don't wish death on anyone, just to make crystal clear).
Call it tactical voting. I suppose it does follow the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" argument.
So if you are in a state where a vote for Obama will definitely be a wasted vote then please, go ahead and vote for someone else. If there will be enough votes from everyone else to allow you to vote your conscience, then again, go ahead. However if it is a close race...
please hold your nose and vote for Obama.
EOM.
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:24 AM
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5. The GOP-led HOR has given us a preview of life under total GOP rule. |
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It is incumbent upon us all to stop that mess.
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:31 AM
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7. I'm pretty tired of the lesser of two "evils" mantra |
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Obama is NOT evil---I challenge any who use this talking point to back up this accusation.
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Wed Oct-19-11 12:30 PM
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22. I wonder if anyone will take you up on that. |
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Frankly, I don't want to get into it. But the US has a very shaky ethical record related to the incestuous relationship between government and industry resulting in sacrificing freedom, justice, health, and happiness for the pursuit of power and profit. Obama does not deserve to be singled out, but he too is an active participant in the promotion of these policies.
That said, if one's choices are so limited, there is logic in opting for what seems to be "not as bad."
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Wed Oct-19-11 06:46 PM
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what he did to the country of Libya was evil. It was a civil war that needed to be settled internally, instead Obama and his NATO friends pumped tons of ammunition(depleted uranium included) into that country to support the rebels who could not stand so much socialist policies of Gaddafi
At the moment, their infrastructure has been bombed into the stone age, some cities have sustain so much damage that it would take decades before it can accommodate any life. Imagine some country descending on the US during the civil war and started attacking Lincoln and the Union army because they believed he was heavy handed in his engagement with the confederates?
I don't this might not be popular here but what he did to that country was evil.
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:32 AM
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8. That's the bottom line right there. Nt |
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:32 AM
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9. Well, aren't you easily satisfied, I'm going to keep looking for an actual leader |
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Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 11:37 AM by Umbral
and if he/she isn't on the Democratic ticket.... too bad for them.
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:57 AM
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Wed Oct-19-11 06:47 PM
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47. would you vote for Mitt Romney if he had a D |
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Thu Oct-20-11 07:45 AM
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48. nope. can you not tell the difference between obama and romney? |
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Wed Oct-19-11 12:01 PM
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18. So you'll vote for another party. That's against DU rules, sweetcheeks. |
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Wed Oct-19-11 12:37 PM
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23. No, advocating for a third party |
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You can vote for whomever you like on DU. You just can't advocate for a third party. Nowhere in the rules does it state that one can't state who one is NOT voting for.
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Wed Oct-19-11 01:28 PM
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28. Quote from the alert list: |
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"Supporting a non-viable or third-party spoiler candidate in any general election. >"
Voting for other than a Dem IS support.
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Wed Oct-19-11 01:50 PM
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32. you actually think you're being clever... don't you? |
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:03 PM
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33. Ah, yes the smilie coda |
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Wed Oct-19-11 01:49 PM
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31. thats' nothing, try this post for pure comedy gold... |
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Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 01:51 PM by dionysus
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:06 PM
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34. That is the truly SAD part of OWS! |
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They will need to VOTE for a Democrat or give the election to the Republicans! I could see Nader co-opting OWS & running to yet again give the Republicans the POTUS!
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:12 PM
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35. i doubt OWS is out to destroy the dems like that poster fancies themselves doing. |
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Wed Oct-19-11 02:19 PM
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36. Lets hope! Nader could co-opt the movement... |
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and that would be just enough to tip the scales in favor of whatever NUT the GOP picks!
I know most of OWS would vote Democratic but the last thing we need is a Left 3rd party candidate like Nader jumping in & handing the election to the GOP like in 2000!
Sorry but I will never forget what that did to our country, ever! And to see it happen again would be...(loss for words just thinking about it)
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Thu Oct-20-11 09:28 PM
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55. Occupy Wall Street is 'the fringe' you right-wingers so derisively mock. |
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Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 09:30 PM by Youth Uprising
They have no love for the Democrats and they will not be co-opted by the Democrats. The administration should be embarrassed that this is happening under their watch. This is a repudiation of their right-wing policies.
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Wed Oct-19-11 06:34 PM
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44. What is he or she is not running for president? Then what? |
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:33 AM
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:39 AM
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The Supreme Court is not going to change a fucking thing.
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:49 AM
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14. So you think it won't matter |
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that a Republican president would appoint mare Clarence Thomases, Antonin Scalias or John Roberts?
I don't know on what planet you are living, but it makes a great deal of difference to me.
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Wed Oct-19-11 11:54 AM
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15. Citizens United sure "changed a fucking thing." /nt |
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Wed Oct-19-11 01:03 PM
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26. No, it didn't, it just makes it legal. nt |
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Wed Oct-19-11 01:09 PM
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27. It dramatically changed the playing field (and you know it). |
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Thu Oct-20-11 07:48 PM
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54. You should try working on a congressional or senate race |
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Until you do, you can't fully understand the effect of Citizens United.
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Wed Oct-19-11 03:14 PM
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37. two words sum up the bottom line for reelecting Obama: SUPREME COURT |
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Even the most dissatisfied know a Republican will make a worse pick than Obama, and if a Republican gets to replace a liberal instead of a conservative justice, the damage could last for decades.
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Wed Oct-19-11 03:32 PM
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I'm really disappointed with Obama but...
I'm going to cattle prod good, conscientious lefties in every manipulative, negative emotional way I can think of.
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Wed Oct-19-11 04:07 PM
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39. We have a choice to vote for varying degrees of insanity |
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Either an extremely insane candidate or a 'moderate' who subscribes to many insane ideas. Meanwhile the rest of the western world looks on in horror at our backwards, insane system of healthcare that kills people for profit.
Gee, I feel much better now. ;(
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Wed Oct-19-11 06:16 PM
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43. that brought it real home for me too, last night. |
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what a passal of whiney childish idiots, omfg
and I agree with you too that Huntsman seems like the only near to normal human in that litter.
and Obama is a freaking Einstein/DaVince compared to that sorry lot.
Of course I knew/know that the repugs are shameful and sick (just need a refresher like seeing them last night), that is why I have steadfast trust in Obama - he is absolutely nothing like that pack of idiot scum.
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Thu Oct-20-11 09:41 AM
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51. BushNader SCOTUS picks |
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Just think, if Nader hadn't won 20,000 vote in NH we woul have a 6 to 3 majority on the SCOTUS instead of the 4 member minority and Citizens United would be history.
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Thu Oct-20-11 05:45 PM
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52. I have been disappointed and vocal about it, but I'm voting for Obama. |
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The alternative is just unthinkable.
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Thu Oct-20-11 09:59 PM
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56. I will hold my nose and vote D |
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as I have every other election since 1968. Money? I'm not inclined this year
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