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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:08 AM
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This worries and pisses me off - if Republicans get rewarded for this type of behavior, America is
Edited on Fri Oct-21-11 11:33 AM by Pirate Smile
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@ThePlumLineGS Greg Sargent Voter tells AP: I support Obama's policies, but he can't get them passed, so I may vote for Romney: http://wapo.st/nf0NoR


Republicans are essentially telling the public that unless they are in power they will refuse to let the government function.

Why GOP benefits from blocking jobs policies the public supports

By Greg Sargent

The Associated Press, in a story about the new AP poll, interviews a voter who captures the dynamic perfectly :

“If Romney and Obama were going head to head at this point in time I would probably move to Romney,” said Dale Bartholomew, 58, a manufacturing equipment salesman from Marengo, Ill. Bartholomew said he agrees with Obama’s proposed economic remedies and said partisan divisions have blocked the president’s initiatives.

But, he added: “His inability to rally the political forces, if you will, to accomplish his goal is what disappoints me.”


And there you have it. This voter agrees with Obama’s policies, but blames the failure to get them enacted on generalized partisanship and Obama’s inability to roll over the GOP — and is prepared to vote against him as a result.

I don’t know if this voter is representative of broader sentiment or not, but I suspect he is, and his reaction to what’s happening is important to flag as a clue to a dynamic we should be watching. Voters either don’t understand, or they don’t care, that the GOP has employed an unprecedented level of filibustering in order to block all of Obama’s policies, even ones that have majority public support from Dems, independents and Republicans alike.


-snip-
Indeed, if the GOP’s strategy is to deliberately create government dysfunction out of a belief that the public will blame Obama for it and lose faith on government in general, turning to GOP ideology instead, it very well may be working. The new AP poll finds that only 41 percent say government can do much to create jobs, a finding that’s borne out in other polls.

What’s probably exacerbating this situation is the truly awful reporting we’re seeing from multiple news orgs on what’s happening here. Jed Lewison rounds up a whole bunch of headlines this morning that only tell readers that the “Senate” rejected the $35 billion in state aid to protect the jobs of teachers and firefighters. Again: News orgs that don’t clearly report that Senate Republicans filibustered the overall jobs bill, and are doing the same with individual pieces of it, refusing to allow a straight up majority vote on any of them, even though they have broad majority public support, are simply misleading their readers and viewers.

This comes after news orgs widely blared the news that the Senate GOP had introduced its own jobs plan without soliciting the views of independent experts on whether that plan would actually ... create jobs. These epic media pathologies, as Kevin Drum has termed them, benefit Republicans, pure and simple.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/why-gop-benefits-from-blocking-jobs-policies-the-public-supports/2011/10/21/gIQAzYCY3L_blog.html


Democrats need to focus on going after the Republicans and making them responsible for what they are doing instead of fighting each other.


edit to add - The voter quoted needs to know that Romney is not going to get those Obama policies he agrees with enacted.

Romney and Republicans will enact the policies that created the financial calamity we are trying to dig our way out of - tax cuts for the rich and funneling more money and resources to the top 1%, oil companies, banks, wall street, etc. along with massive deregulation of everything - getting rid of Dodd Frank, EPA, etc. NOT the Policies the voter AGREES WITH!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:13 AM
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1. Great analysis, and it pisses me off too.
Pisses me off even more that the loud faction of DU is aiding and abetting.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:13 AM
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2. Blue dog Dems are the problem. They are not true Democrats.
Blue dogs play to the corporate sycophants. A person who acts obsequiously toward someone in order to gain advantage; a servile flatterer.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:17 AM
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3. They are about 3% of the problem
97% of the problem is racist, asshole Republicans.

Blaming the wrong people will lead to Republican wins in 2012.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:20 AM
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4. DU is all about giving Republicans a free pass.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:24 AM
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6. What planet do you hail from?
that is one of the most inane observations I've read on this site.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:28 AM
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8. Well, I wouldn't say it's DU's prime directive.
But there definitely are lots of posters who routinely place blame on a few DINOs (and even Democrats) while completely ignoring the lock-step GOP obstruction.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:37 AM
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9. Thank you for the clarification...
On the other hand, we probably could have had legislation rivaling the New Deal if it hadn't been for the DINOs.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:30 AM
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19. When I complain about this on DU the excuse is that blaming the repukes is too "obvious"
so obvious that it doesn't need to be stated.

People on DU in the attack Obama camp seem to believe they help him move to the left. Meanwhile they create confusion, especially with new members and also because DU is easily searchable on the web, and they show little support when so much support is needed against an underhanded enemy.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:25 PM
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23. Agreed.
It's the old Nader idea: there's no difference between the two parties. If you believe that, then why are you here? Then if you dare say that Nader helped bring Dubya to power you get all sorts of inanity. Forget that rubbish.

"I told Mr. Nader today that a vote for Ralph Nader is really a vote for George Bush."
Rep. Barbara Lee - (D-CA)


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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 08:24 AM
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17. I have to agree...
The Republicans do get a free pass on DU as people go out of their way to place full blame on Obama for many things that in reality the Republicans are who their anger should be aimed at...And sometimes even many Democrats in Congress. Like closing GITMO...Obama tried more than once to close GITMO but his efforts were blocked by almost every Republican & Democrat in Congress yet folks here on DU place 100% of the blame on Obama & no one else!
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:33 AM
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20. +1 there are too many who have the same agenda as the GOP
and that is to get rid of Obama. Now that may be because of their "principles" but just as often it's because they are not who they say they are..
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:43 PM
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22. YES! I seriously wonder about man people's...
"principles" here on DU who attack Obama the way they do. I would not be surprised if many of them are in fact Republicans trying to divide us...The Republicans know how easy it is to divide the Democrats because we have yet to learn it takes time & methodical political strategy to change things in this country...Instead we cry & complain if we don't get our way yesterday! SAD!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 06:54 AM
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16. I'd pump it up a bit more in percentage. We'd have the Public Option if not for Blue Dogs. n/t
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Cigar11 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:21 AM
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5. On one should be surprised,
the GOP said from day one that they were not going to work with this President.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:26 AM
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7. Gee, if only more Dems were focused on going after the GOP
Instead of helping people think like this.

If too many people are fooled into thinking like this rather than getting the offenders OUT of congress, then they really will send this country down the toilet.

And this genius thinks the GOP will play NICE once you put them back in power?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:49 AM
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10. The Republicans either get the WH, or we all go down. It's been that way for 2 1/2 years now.
One term President. This is how it will happen.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:25 PM
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11. kick
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 08:35 PM
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12. Some author, I can't remember who, pointed out that when people
get frustrated with Washington they vote for the party that portrays themselves as the 'outsiders'. In this case, the GOP. So Obama needs to speak about how the GOP are really the party of the insiders: they are an organ of the plutocracy while the democrats are the party of people outside of corporate boardrooms and power.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 10:12 PM
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13. Republicans really are holding the country hostage.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 10:16 PM
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14. Sorry but only a fool thinks like this
You like Obama's policies, but will vote for the guy who has policies the complete opposite of Obama's because he might can get it through?

Only a damn fool thinks this foolishly.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 06:18 AM
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15. The Prez needs to take off the gloves....
... and let the R's have it. The American public elected him for hope and change, not to compromise with the powers that are stealing our democracy.

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Katashi_itto Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 08:48 AM
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18. Exactly..its his "Bipartsianship" fetish that got him where he is.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:28 PM
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24. And then when they shut the government down...
...we get absolutely nowhere. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

It's our fault he has to deal with them controlling the House. "Yes we can," not "Yes he can."
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 07:41 AM
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25. You think they'd hate him more if he called them out?
Preposterous.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:46 PM
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26. I think if he'd push them into a total corner.
They'd retaliate and *nothing* would get done. See this summer's debt crisis for example. They are children.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:50 PM
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27. So.... same as now, huh?
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 11:56 PM
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30. That's not true.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:46 PM
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21. It's analogous to giving in to the mob
Really.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 02:31 PM
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28. "Nice economy youse got dere. Shame if it went down in flames."
"Just gives us what we wants, and no one gets hurt, OK, pally?"
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 03:54 PM
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29. Excellent post. nt
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