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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:22 PM
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Why the 2013/2014 kick in date?
Please keep this a informative post........

Why not start it earlier? Why the long delay?

Is there a good reason for it?

And can the insurance companies raise rates before those dates?




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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:25 PM
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1. So, the prols don't revolt before the 2o10 election and hopefully forget
the new cause of their misery by the time the provisions kick in.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:43 AM
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14. agreed. Obama expects to be re-elected before the shit hits the fan
and I think there are people who like to kill people and so the dead between now and then is icing on the cake. Yeah, I am beyond despair.
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mcablue Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:30 PM
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2. Credit cards raised their interest rates with less than 1 year of warning
So imagine what the insurers will do 4-5 years in advance.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:32 PM
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3. I asked my wife that same question this morning.
Rhetorically, of course. But still, the question remains: why so long? At first I figured it just takes a long time to get the paperwork and the systems in order when you're starting up a whole new bureaucracy. But no, G.W.B. created a Homeland Security Department, the largest, most bloated clusterfuck of an organization ever created by government, in a very short period of time. So it can't really be that. And hell, they wrote the whole damned bill in a matter of months (weeks?). So why the hell will it take so long?

I think the answer is obvious -- it's not because it will take the government long to implement the changes, but they need to give the insurance companies time to cover their asses through rate increase, claim denials, more member purges (not having to pay out for two or three years will save a bundle!), etc, etc.

And so it goes.

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Garam_Masala Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:44 PM
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4. Because 2013 & 2014 comes after 2012 presidential election n/t
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 09:45 PM by Garam_Masala
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:56 PM
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5. '10 and '12 elections will be over
so if it's a disaster it looks to be, the current administration won't be around to pay the political price. kind of kicking the can down the road to the '14 and '16 elections. and in the meantime, the corporate financial industry hogfest will go on.

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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:17 PM
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6. I believe it is partly to make the CBO estimate look better
than if they implemented it sooner.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:20 PM
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9. That is an excellent point
In the House bill, the taxes start right away. I'm not sure about the Senate bill (it keeps changing from day to day), but it wouldn't surprise me if the taxes didn't start fairly quickly, as well. That influx of money is what will make the thing look more revenue neutral in the earlier years of the program.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:41 PM
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11. Yes it is mostly a budgeting issue
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levander Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:42 AM
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13. It's not partly, it's exactly to make the fiscal score for the bill look better
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 12:42 AM by levander
10 years of revenue, 6 years of service was the only way they could make it look like they were saving money on the deficit.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:18 PM
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7. Remember when Medicare Part D kicked in?
You had all kinds of confused seniors trying to sort through multiple drug plans. I have no doubt that even if perfectly executed, we would have the same sort of confusion about who, what, when, and for how much, when it comes to coverage.

I figure Congress and the President are fine with people going through that after an election is safely in the rearview mirror.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:19 PM
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8. Same reason why corporate giveaways go into effect promptly
Seriously.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:42 PM
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10. Amazing no pro-bill responses!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:29 AM
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12. Pretty obvious, isn't it?
So Obama and those in Congress who supported this travesty don't have to suffer the direct backlash once people start to figure out how screwed they are.
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