Gingrich & Cain "Lincoln-Douglas Debate", I'm calling BS!

[K8-EEE]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gingrich-cain-spar-lincoln-douglas-style-debate-201423165.html

IMO the whole thing is set up so that Gingrich could take just enough support from Cain to hand it to Romney.

WHY the hell would someone in Cain's position - he's WAY ahead of Newt, sign on to something like this when Newt is the better debater?

This GOP primary is so fake -- they are all just trying to figure out have Romney win with 70% of the GOP base not liking him so what they are doing is trying to cut up the 70% in a way that nobody gets more than 25% of it. Fox is all over it too with Brit Hume & Rove talking down Cain....Quitter has even been talking up Ron Paul as well as Gingrich. But nobody (including Cain) is going after Romney!

[louis-t]

1. More like a "Dumb-Dumber" debate.

God, these people make my head hurt. The biggest bunch of phonies this country has ever seen.

[K8-EEE]

4. Even the Freepers are wondering why Cain doesn't go after Romney

Ay yi yi the whole thing is just so manipulated and fake.

[rocktivity]

19. Cain doesn't go after Romney because his job is to go after Perry

thus making room for Romney

:headbang:
rocktivity

[K8-EEE]

20. As it turns out they didn't need anybody to go after Perry

Because Perry does that job quite nicely himself! :rofl:

[Kennah]

2. If honesty ever takes hold at the GOP, their debates will be on Pay-Per-View

[Enrique]

3. they're both in the race to sell books

maybe they'll co-author one next.

[K8-EEE]

6. Absolutely -- self promoters and not serious candidates

That's all "conservatism" ever really produces, they are all just scammers.

[opihimoimoi]

5. In the end...Trump will enter and get more votes than Cain or Mitt

Sharon ODonnell will be his mate

[SpiralHawk]

7. The Pizzaman-Philanderer Debate, is more accurate

What a snoozer...

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

8. Cain is a fake candidate. He has no intention, nor possibility, of winning the nomination.

He's mainly raising his national profile to increase book sales and increase his leverage for a deal for the inevitable Fox News show he will have.

Hence no real campaign infrastructure despite leading polls:

http://swampland.time.com/2011/10/24/the-mystery-of-the-missing-presidential-campaign-cain-operation-mia-in-key-states/#ixzz1bjuDQZ2e

“We see nothing to resemble a real campaign,” says another GOP operative, who is based in South Carolina and knows of only one Cain staffer there. According to him, both of South Carolina’s U.S. Senators and one member of its House delegation sought assistance with reaching out to Cain, but the strategist said he’s been unable to get the campaign to respond.

Hence Cain buying national ads instead of ads focused on Iowa, NH, NV and SC:

http://thepage.time.com/2011/10/24/herminating-the-airwaves/

National publicity = national book sales and national Fox audience. He can't make any money just selling crappy books in IA and NH.

Looked at in this context the Cain/Gingrich debate makes total sense. Gingrich is, after all, running a similar fake campaign for similar reasons, he's just much less appealing as a public figure than Cain. The two of them probably laugh about the whole thing over the phone or in person.

[customerserviceguy]

13. And isn't that wonderful?

He possibly denies Mitt Romney a first ballot victory. He keeps a bunch of tea partiers disillusioned, and if Romney does manage to wrest the nomination away from Pizzaman, there will be a lot of PO'd baggers joining the fundies in voting third party.

How does that hurt us?

[K8-EEE]

15. I do think it might really backfire on them which is great but

I have to say and not to sound naive but the degree of obvious manipulation I've seen in this particular GOP race is SOOO blatant that it's like, they cancelled democracy in a way. I truly think it doesn't matter WHO "the base" wants. They are completely disenfranchised and too damned stupid to know it!

[customerserviceguy]

16. And don't you love watching them

wriggle like a bug on it's back in a jar of turpentine? Ok, if you think bugs deserve more pity than Republicans, I can see why you'd answer in the negative.

[K8-EEE]

14. Agreed, like Trump and Quitter but I don't think they thought that

Perry would tank SO badly -- the idea was for Cain and Perry to split and Romney win with 1/4 to 1/3 of the vote in the Southern states. It would serve them right if they lost control of this little game and ended up with Cain, LOL, I think he's SO fake that he would pull a Perot and back out if that really looked like a possibility.

[Andy823]

9. The whole thing is a farce

Anybody that really might have a chance next year against the president, is NOT going to run this year, period! Nobody really wants Mitt, so like they did with McCain, they will simply give it to him and watch him lose. After being a two time loser, Mitt will NOT run again. In 2016 those who are the right wings stars will be running, without Mitt. They pretty much know the president will win, and I think the real money will be put into the congressional races so they can try and keep president Obama from getting anything done in his second term.

Democrats need to really focus on congressional races so we can at least keep the senate, and hopefully take back the house. I really think the tea party morons have pretty much pissed off most voters, and democrats have a good chance to get some seats back in the house, hopefully enough to take back control. I also think if republicans keep going down the path of trying to prevent "EVERYTHING" the president wants from now to the elections, they are going to piss off enough in their party that they might lose a lot more seats than they think.

[K8-EEE]

12. I agree they already know Obama is winning and think Romney would do the least damange

to the GOP brand and the down-ticket races.

[boxman15]

10. Romney is the man for the GOP

All he has to do is keep his mouth shut and let the GOP masters do what they will to Cain and the nomination is his.

[wndycty]

11. What do you want to bet the both receive some type of speaker's fee. . .

:kick:

[rocktivity]

17. The beginning of the end for Cain?

With Cain effectively neutralizing Perry, they are now in a position to force-feed us Romney. Which means that Cain has served his purpose and it's time to step aside. Gingrich has received the assignmnent. Maybe they even promised Cain a VP or Sec of State slot, hee hee...

:headbang:
rocktivity

[housewolf]

18. Gosh, do you think it will last for 7 hours?

Like the actual L-D debates did?

With each man speaking for an hour and then the other getting 1.5 hrs to rebut? Then back to the orig speaker for 30 minutes?

That ought to be thrilling - must-see TV

:sarcasm:

[randome]

21. That's like calling bullshit bullshit.

[Arkana]

22. Neither of these putzes has the intellectual firepower required.

Lincoln had more brains in his pinky finger than these two do in their entire bodies--Douglas too.

[SeattleVet]

23. Maybe they got the idea from Faux News