KansasVoter
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:31 AM
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My worry, the 2 or 3 year delay gives the Insurance Companies time to screw us over! |
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They will have a team of accountants and lawyers finding ways to screw us over for two years.
Why the darn delay in implementing this thing?????
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:32 AM
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1. I just hope none of them hire Karl Rove or Mr. Burns |
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or anyone like them. We'll be in BIG trouble then. :scared:
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:35 AM
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2. Just like the alleged "credit card reform" bill. |
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Kill the bill. Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.
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-Laelth
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:36 AM
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:39 AM
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We have seen no final bill yet.
You don't know what will be in it and neither do I.
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KansasVoter
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:15 AM
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11. Want to bet $50 to charity that full benifits do not start until after 2012? |
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:41 AM
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5. If they jack up their rates between now and when it goes into effect then they will be excluded from |
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:57 AM
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13. Facts are ignored here. |
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Don't you know that the new regulations and restriction on health insurance companies will in fact make them worse than they are now. Somehow. I can't explain it, but just trust me. We're all going to die.
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:02 PM
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14. So??? Few people are allowed to participate and everyone is mandated |
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The exchanges are not much of a stick. Especially, when the uninsured are non-desirables as they have in many cases gone without treatment and have conditions.
If we could all acess the exchanges the heat would be turned way down. At least there would be credible market based choices and the ability to vote with our feet.
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:44 AM
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6. Same as the credit-card companies... |
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The credit-card companies were given fair warning that some new restrictions were coming down the pike.
So, during the time before those restrictions are implemented--they're soaking every last dime out of us.
I think we're all out of denial now--about our politicians being slaves to the corporations. We're pretty much aware that our country and our political system is no longer a democracy.
The credit-card companies donated to our elected officials--so the politicians let them soak us for years. The banks had their little windfall, and now the health-insurance industry is having their way with us.
This is only going to get worse, folks. The big, greedy corporations see how this works now. Pretty soon, we'll have all sorts of companies and industries lining up to milk more money out of us and screw us over. They all clearly see how the game is played--and that there are billions to be made if you just buy off the politicians--who will deregulate you, close a few loopholes or slip in a few amendments for ya.
Welcome to hell folks...
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:01 AM
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7. I agree unfortunately. They now realize they can make all the rules. I think there is |
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only one solution and there is much standing in the way to attain it, is they must be brought to Court and fined and perhaps jailed for misuse of the consumer's money, theft and a host of many other charges. When the whole system is set up for "share-holders" and NOT the actual consumers that provide the money, yet we are forced to give them our money, I would think there is just grounds for major suits.
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:04 AM
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8. It gives the GOP more fodder. They can continue to distort because |
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the people have nothing to prove the GOP wrong.
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:06 AM
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9. I think they are not dumb enough to allow for that |
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You're just reacting without finding out more information. Why are they delaying it? If you don't know the answer to that (or your answer is just "to give the ins. cos more time to screw us over") you don't know enough to justify riling yourself up with negativity.
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:15 AM
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12. Then give me a good reason Einstein! |
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:07 PM
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15. Accounting tricks to get revenue without expenditures and to give the corporations time to game us |
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What else could it be? Big insurance was able to get their pawns to delay even portions the President said would become law upon the stroke of his pen like the recissions, caps, and the denial of preexisting conditions.
We are absolutely getting rolled by corporate interests and we have demonstrated we lack the will to do anything about it.
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:00 AM
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10. They are unregulated corporations and will do whatever makes them the most money. |
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They've killed a million+ americans through denial and rescission in the last 20 years, does anyone really think human life matters to these companies.
Corporations and today's politicians are not our friends.
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:12 PM
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16. I'd like see a shorter delay |
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it is actually mostly just a budgeting move to make the CBO number look better. But once the bill passes this isn't a concern so move up should be be a big deal.
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:53 PM
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17. Big insurance is licking its chops. |
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Mon Dec-21-09 01:05 PM
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18. It's like sentencing a criminal |
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Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 01:05 PM by spoony
to life, but letting them roam free doing pretty much whatever they want for a few years before the sentence takes effect.
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Mon Dec-21-09 07:49 PM
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19. Let's face it - insurance companies will find a way to screw us. |
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We need to have an alternative to insurance companies. Then they can only screw those who want to be screwed. But now, since we've cemented them in their role as a middle-man, they'll remain one step ahead of whatever controls we attempt to put in place.
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Mon Dec-21-09 07:56 PM
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20. Here's what I got in an email from Obama a few minutes ago: |
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As with any legislation, compromise is part of the process. But I'm pleased that recently added provisions have made this landmark bill even stronger. Between the time when the bill passes and the time when the insurance exchanges get up and running, insurance companies that try to jack up their rates do so at their own peril. Those who hike their prices may be barred from selling plans on the exchanges.
Hope this helps!
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