Obama: Senate health care vote 'big victory for the American people'

[jefferson_dem]

:patriot:

Obama: Senate health care vote 'big victory for the American people'

Less than 12 hours after Senate Democrats broke a Republican filibuster on health care, President Obama hailed the pending legislation as "a big victory for the American people."

Obama said the proposal would prevent insurance customers from losing health care coverage because of pre-existing conditions, serious illnesses or "exorbitant out-of-pocket expenses."

"Many people recall the enormous fights around the patient's bill of rights that never got done," Obama said before an event on ways to improve government efficiency. "Well, you know what? The patient's bill of rights is embedded in this health care bill."

The Senate is likely to vote on its health care bill this week. It must then reconcile differences with health care legislation passed last month by the U.S. House before Obama can sign any health care changes into law.

Obama rejected "carping" by critics that this is a "big spending government bill," citing a report from the Congressional Budget Office that it will reduce the projected federal budget deficit "by $132 billion the first 10 years and by over $1 trillion in the second."

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http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/12/obama-senate-health-care-vote-big-victory-for-the-american-people/1?csp=34

[Clear Blue Sky]

1. And the benefits kick in when? 2012? 2014?

[NJmaverick]

3. Do you think starting over will bring them quicker?

[Clear Blue Sky]

10. Why not? How many people will die waiting til 2014 for the preexisting conditions issue to go away?

[NJmaverick]

11. How long did the do over take when Clinton decided the bill was dead?

[Clear Blue Sky]

16. I don't think a crappy bill is better than no bill.

[NJmaverick]

18. That's what the Dems in the 70s thought when the defeated Nixon's HC bill

which is superior to what is being debated today.

[Clear Blue Sky]

34. Easier to just do it right the first time.

[polpilot]

23. Obama deals crushing blow to healthcare deniers!!!

[jefferson_dem]

6. Many of the subsidies are delayed.

Many of the regulations on industry kick in right away.

[Vinca]

9. How are the subsidies going to be delivered?

After listening to an interview with Debbie Stabenow I got the distinct impression this will be in the form of a tax credit. That means, of course, you will have to pony up your $20,000 to big insurance and then wait a year for whatever you get as a credit. If that's the case, they'd better start adding on to the prisons.

[Armstead]

15. If so, what about those who don't make enough to pay much tax anyway?

[Kablooie]

2. Big victory for the American people who run insurance companies, is the full phrase.

[tridim]

8. And an even bigger victory for the American people who don't run insurance companies.

Everyone wins, except the GOP who will be decimated for voting in lockstep against the will of the people.

[and-justice-for-all]

13. This bill is garbage...nt

[tridim]

19. Such a detailed retort.

:eyes:

The people like the bill as reflected in polls today.

[and-justice-for-all]

20. Ok

:eyes:

[DrToast]

4. Instead of saving $132 billion in the first ten years, why not start it sooner?

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[NJmaverick]

5. They have been trying since Teddy R. to enact HCR

this is an historic occasion.

[saracat]

22. So they have decided to lie and call this healthcare reform when it is anything but.

Reminds me of the clear skies iniative.Nothing but empty rhetoric except for the bad ideas including opt outs and anti-choice.We should be ashamed.Mandates for nothing and to be paid by an already suffering people.

[NJmaverick]

25. Why would Howard Dean or Paul Krugman lie?

[saracat]

30. They didn't name this.

bill and both have been outspoken critics.Dean has many times stated this is NOT real health care reform

[NJmaverick]

33. Yet now Dean is saying vote it through and Krugman is a strong supporter

[saracat]

35. Only if more changes are made. He said it is now better but he still doesn't like it. He said he

hopes that changes will be made in conference. You don't seriously think dean actually supports a Bill with anti choice in it?

[mzmolly]

7. I'm happy today.

Sorry some are not. ;)

[and-justice-for-all]

12. 'big victory for the American people'

I completely disagree.

[Armstead]

14. ....if the person happens to be a member of the Insurance Industry

[polpilot]

21. I'm mad at myself for not investing in the insurance companies this past summer.

Then I'd have $$$ for healthcare...so it's my fault and I assume FULL RESPONSIBILITY!

[Armstead]

24. That's the spirit -- free market Darwinian healthcare requires resourcefulness to survive

[ipaint]

17. Or Goldman Sachs, Blackstone Group and Credit Suisse

Then the timing is oh so perfect, they are launching their new business ins. venture in January 2010.

Insphere Insurance Solutions

July 7 (Bloomberg) -- Blackstone Group LP, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Credit Suisse Group AG are backing a new U.S. firm marketing insurance to small businesses and middle-income individuals.

Insphere Insurance Solutions will sell life, retirement and health products through 3,500 agents when the Dallas-based firm launches in January, the company said in a statement. Funding comes from a $1 billion private equity investment made in 2005 in HealthMarkets Inc., a predecessor firm whose agents will be retrained as the Insphere sales force, said Phillip Hildebrand, chief executive officer of both companies, in an interview.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=as.BRnlVf28Y



Here is the link to their health ins. site, ready to go:

http://www.insphereinsurancesolutions.com/products/health-insurance.html

"If you're a small business owner or an individual who needs health insurance, you know how hard it can be to find coverage that fits your needs and budget. Fortunately, your local Insphere Insurance Solutions agent is there to help make that task a whole lot easier.

With Insphere, you have access to a number of different health coverage options from a variety of leading carriers. We carefully review and work with the carriers to help ensure that the products we offer meet the health coverage needs of middle-income households. We offer a wide range of health coverage solutions — from traditional PPO plans, to catastrophic coverage, to scheduled benefit plans, and more. You can even add supplemental coverage to your health plan."

[mdmc]

26. perhaps

YOU LIE!

perhaps my health insurance will not be unusable due to the cost (co-pays). Perhaps..

[Bluenorthwest]

27. How much is it? When do we have to pay them?

That's all we care about anymore. So shove the victory dance and tell us how much you want from us. This bigoted man with his discriminatory law, I care not what words he breaths today. His words are of no value. Just give a figure, how much.

[Undercurrent]

28. You and Glen Beck

need to get a room. Sheesh!

[Aramchek]

29. it certainly is!

[Faryn Balyncd]

31. Obama is a disgrace to working people, the middle class and the Democratic Party. His "reform" would

...be a joke if it were not so damaging.

[freddie mertz]

32. Nonsense. It's a victory for the lobbyists and fundamentalists.

Not the people.