CNN puts negative spin on improving poll numbers

[jenmito]

From CNN/Opinion Research's latest poll, support for the Senate Health Care Bill went up from 36% to 42% and opposition went down from 61% to 56% and what did Gloria Borger get from the poll? That it's clear that the longer the bill "languishes out there," the less support there is. That's what they started with. Then they went on to show Obama's approval numbers-he's now up to 54% from 48%, while disapproval is down to 44% from 50%-all improvements from just over two WEEKS ago! And what does Borger get from THOSE numbers? That it's clear that "he's not in the stratosphere anymore." :eyes:

[Kdillard]

1. We can always count on CNN. to find the negative in the positive.

[jenmito]

5. It's not only CNN. It's MSNBC, too. n/t

[tridim]

11. And half of DU.

[jenmito]

12. At this point...

I think it's MORE than half. People are unrec'ing my OP with no comment. I guess they DO want him to fail.

[tridim]

15. I still believe it's mostly infiltration.

I'm not going to call anyone out because that's against the rules.

We are infiltrated by people who want Obama and the Democrats to fail. It's bloody obvious.

[janx]

16. There's a LOT of that going on, yes. n/t

[Politics_Guy25]

43. Yep that was what my post was about yesterday

I posted something about Karl Rove. I didn't want to directly say it due to board rules but it was a shot across the bow to the infiltrators and disruptors that I know what they are doing. Half of the time, they don't even pretend not to echo GOP talking points.

[goclark]

19. Yes they do want Obama to fail, just like the Republicans

The Republicans must be dancing for joy!

[Pirate Smile]

2. Obama's numbers swung +12 and they made it sound negative. I heard her on CNN a little while ago.

It was ridiculous. Cracked me up. :D

[jenmito]

8. Yup...

they talked as if these numbers were disastrous for Obama.

[HughMoran]

3. lol

a lot of people on DU are nodding in agreement with Borger :)

[SoxFan]

4. Green Underground

The Fellowship of the Miserable

[HughMoran]

7. Saw Hodes with Obama at the rally in Londonderry in 2008

Can't find a pic with Hodes - oh, well

[SoxFan]

13. Mack's Apples!

That's where we do our apple picking. They have some awesome pears there, too. Stop in at their farm stand next fall!

[HughMoran]

21. It's a nice place

I'll have to take a cruise that way next fall then ;)

[Phx_Dem]

6. Like some on DU, they're hoping for failure. n/t

[jenmito]

9. I agree. n/t

[gardenista]

35. Indeed, CNN, et al are joined by others

hidden agendas make for strange bedfellows.

[grantcart]

10. Gloria Borger is a David Gregory wannabe

And given that David Gregory is a wannabe that makers her a wannabe wannabe.

[girl gone mad]

14. The poll said 56% oppose the bill.

How is that a positive?

What's more, so far this poll is an outlier in terms of showing any increase in support for the bill. The trend throughout December has been diminishing support in the poll of polls.

Here's the poll in case anyone wants to read it for themselves: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/21/cnn-poll-6-point-jump-in-support-for-health-care-bill/

More people still believe they will be worse off with this bill than better off.

[jenmito]

17. It's an improvement. And his approval rating improved greatly. n/t

[pansypoo53219]

18. cee an n

are the enemy.

[ClarkUSA]

20. That's why we call 'em mediawhores.

Thanks for another keen-eyed OP, jen.

:hi:

[jenmito]

22. I guess so...

thank YOU! :hi:

[OHdem10]

23. Could it be the Media realize this is not a good bill? They may

be as dismayed as others with the Waffling Obama.

A panel of the Sunday Chris Matthews show--more serious journalists
were in agreement that Obama made a big mistake by turning the
bill over to the Senate to write and pass. Makes him appear
weak and "too cute by half".

[jenmito]

24. So that makes it ok to misrepresent their own poll data?

And you sound just like Howard Finemann with that "too cute by half" line.

[treestar]

41. What?

I'm to put stock in pundits' opinions? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Tweety's opinion? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Undercurrent]

25. A bunch of

DUers have done the negative spin dance on these poll numbers too.

Pathetic.

[mcablue]

26. People are quiet about Gallup today

I wonder why.

[Pirate Smile]

28. OMG - it may have gone done a point!!! We're doomed!. He's doomed!

Better?:evilgrin:

[jenmito]

30. I don't know. Why don't you ask the "liberal" media why they were quiet

when Obama was at 52% in the Gallup poll a few days ago?

[Godhumor]

32. Because a +/-1 is normal and expected movement versus a +12 which defines a shift?

Would be my guess. Gallup has been pretty stable.

[Tippy]

38. Reguarding Polls

The American Association for Public Opinion Research yesterday reprimanded polling firm Strategic Vision for failing to disclose even basic information about their polls. Both Strategic Vision and Quinnipiac....are down today....Not sure whats going on it seems one fellow worked for both polls.......

[jenmito]

44. You mean today's Gallup poll which has him up 2 to 51% approval and down 3 to 43% disapproval?

http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

[Aramchek]

27. just wait until Obama signs HCR into law,

it's going to be great to see the haters squirm as his poll numbers rebound

he's invested alot of capital into this and the payoff will be even more :)

[jenmito]

29. It IS going to be great!

And a win begets another win, although he has "won" many things (through legislation) already.

[bigwillq]

31. Nothing wrong with that report

I watched it. They told the facts. They told what the poll said. I guess everyone will take something different out of that report. I agree, he's not in the "stratosphere" anymore. At this point, I didn't expect him to be.

[jenmito]

33. Not true...

their poll had Obama at a net gain of 12 points from their last poll. If she wanted to accurately reflect that, she would've said Obama's approval rose above 50% again-not that "he's no longer in the stratosphere."

[bigwillq]

34. I believe she said

that his approval rating was up from the last poll. Plus, the poll speaks for itself. Unless a person is blind (not being offensive here, just making a point), people can see that the approval ratings went up. That's what I got out of it. Regardless, you seem to have an obsession with poll numbers. His poll numbers will go up and down. They will next week, and the week after that and the week after that. That's how it works in politics.

[jenmito]

36. Yeah...

she said something like, "Although his approval has gone up a few points, the country doesn't really feel he'll succeed with his agenda..." When his numbers dipped below 50%, they all made a HUGE deal about it. Now it's nothing to them that his numbers improved? I'm obsessed with people in the media being objective.

[bigwillq]

37. I didn't think that report was biased.

Guess it's all in the interpretation.

[Hansel]

40. Well if it wasn't, it would be a1st.

Gloria Borger rarely can speak without echoing right wing talking points. She has poor analytical skills and always leans toward the right. So if she wasn't being biased it's a first for her. I've been watching her for years and she can't help herself.

[bigwillq]

42. Apply for the position

Or turn off the TV.

Those are two choice you have.

[uponit7771]

39. She sounds like a pony person