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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 02:59 AM Original message |
As Health Bill nears passage President Obama's support among Liberal Democrats still high 86% |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. Good news! |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. They must have skipped over me. |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. No, they didn't "skip" you ... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. Ouch. |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
62. it kills them to find out how few of them there are |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. Haaaa ha haaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha haaaaaa haaa ha haaa haaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
63. as will History |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. Tryin' to dazzle me with facts, are you? |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
5. I'm dazzled too ~ sometimes I think I'm on another planet |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
6. We'll see how that carries over |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
7. I think we can conjecture that the convulsions are just so much posturing. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Yeah, just like the convulsions over IWR. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
8. Well, obviously Obama should continue to piss in the Wheaties of "liberal democrats"... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. your anti Obama screed is not surprising but I am curious |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. What supernatural powers?... I am a practitioner of Voudoun!! |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. I am curious then since I spent only spent 7 years working in refugee camps |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. Ironic |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
80. LOL ~ you must not have any idea about grantcart |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. I've always been a registered Independent.. |
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Undercurrent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:26 AM Response to Original message |
10. Great news. |
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Does ANYONE know how to read a chart? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
64. In other developments, how's the 'thon going? Meeting the goals? n/t. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
11. So he has 86% support among members of the third largest political party in Great Britain? |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:42 AM Response to Original message |
13. So you think you can come here, wave with numbers and facts |
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Polls like this make some people feel better |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:40 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. The only polls that really matter are the ones |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
44. no someone actually dared me to do it. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
15. The demographic not discussed is "activists" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
54. You mean like the |
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falcon97 (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:10 AM Response to Original message |
16. Support? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:31 AM Response to Original message |
20. That was Nov. I would have answered yes |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:01 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. It's actually December 14-20. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
23. Wow. I went to 5 political events loaded with "liberal " Dems this holiday season |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. They discuss their methodology. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. The political ones were 100% DemocraticThe otheres were mixes. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:38 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Yeah, but...we (in general) tend to associate ourselves with like minded individuals. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:52 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. That may be so but what was surprising is that folks I often don't agree with |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Random sampling implies that is the exception, not the rule. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 06:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Whatever. Election results are the only numbers that matter. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. I think I am going to consider this poll more accurate than your |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:31 AM Response to Original message |
25. Neo-liberal, pro-corporate democrats LOVE this give-away to the Insurance Cartel ... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. That seems like a "No True Scotsman" argument. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I know a lot of Centrists, pro corporate democrats who love to use the "liberal" label when |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Problem is that not every person subscribes to ShortnFiery's definition of liberal |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. No, don't take my word for it, look to Europe? The USA has morphed into a right-wing duopoly. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. people no longer have the ability to classify themselves, we must do it for them. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Chronic malcontents, never. |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
35. So the vast majority |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
36. Good numbers from the Quinnipiac poll as well... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
38. K&R for that good old timey feeling I get with that |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
40. Yeah, on 9/12/2001, GWB had a 90% approval rating. |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
73. I am afraid |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
42. ...but did he save Bambi ?!?! No? well....there you go.. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
46. I support Obama -- But I fear he is Screwing the Pooch |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
47. 86% Approval among Liberal Democrats |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. or 3) your a corporate sell out |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You seem to be overlooking an important point -- BALANCE |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #48 |
70. Curse you for stating the obvious!! |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Yep we are conservative provocateurs for wanting te actually see real liberal reform |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
49. BS. Danny Glover said black folks are mad at Obama |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
66. Danny Glover is a PUMA |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Naw he ain't. He's a smart brother with a difference of opinion, nothing more or less |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. ! |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
51. Gallup thinks Ben Nelson is a "liberal." |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. This isnt who Gallup thinks is Liberal, it is who self-identifies as Liberal. n/t |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. among those contacted by Gallup. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. LOL |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
55. KR |
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dcsmart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
56. I am not in revolt against the Pres. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
57. The highest drop comes from the 18-29 group, and the greatest |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
58. he's better than GOP, but that doesn't mean we can't expect more |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
60. Kick, Rec. n/t. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
61. Retrospective data at this point- |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. you just can't believe your lyin' Aussie eyes can you? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. LOL- no, I just know how to conduct and analyze actual research |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
72. I predict these numbers go up once the HCR bill gets passed and into law.. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
75. Take a good long look out the window, Mitt and Mike. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
76. Nice! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
77. This is such, IMO, bullshit. The M$M "manufacturing consent." |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
78. Wait until they all get fucked over by the mandate n/t |
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