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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:14 AM
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Quinnipiac Poll: Only 36% approve of HCR bill; 56% want public option; 64% want Medicare for all
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 10:24 AM by TeamJordan23
Nice read on what the public wants, Axelrod and Rahm.

--Voters "mostly disapprove" of the proposed health care plan 53 - 36 percent and disapprove 56 - 38 percent of President Barack Obama's handling of the health care issue

--Voters also oppose 72 - 23 percent using any public money in the health care overhaul to pay for abortions

--Voters also disapprove 51 - 44 percent of President Obama's handling of the economy and disapprove 56 - 37 percent of the way he is creating jobs

--Voters favor 52 - 42 percent his plan to use $200 billion left over from the bank bailout for a new stimulus package to create jobs rather than to reduce the budget deficit

--Looking at the health care plan, independent voters "mostly disapprove" 58 - 30 percent, as do Republicans 83 - 10 percent. Democrats "mostly approve" 64 - 22 percent

--Voters support 56 - 38 percent giving people the option of coverage by a government health insurance plan and back 64 - 30 percent allowing younger people to buy into Medicare

http://thepage.time.com/more-on-quinnipiac-poll-2/

Full Poll: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1408
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:16 AM
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1. But health-care and pharma CEOs want something else...
And they own Congress, so guess what...???
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:19 AM
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2. Yet Congress and the White House do not want to accommodate the public's views.
I remember folks here saying that the Obama Admin. was going to be a 'grassroots - bottom up' kind of administration. It isn't. It's about control.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:19 AM
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3. Who cares what the public wants. They just want a pony. Give them a jackass instead.
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 10:19 AM by Armstead
Stop being unrealistic, and stop expecting Congress ti express the majority.

(sarcasm)

We must support our lobbyists at all costs. They're the ones who matter.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:19 AM
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4. Democrats mostly approve of the health care plan--64-22.
That's not too bad. Who the fuck cares what Republicans think?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:21 AM
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7. Maybe if you looked at the numbers again....
If (non Congressional) Republicans and independents want a public option and/or Medicare buy in, then that's a good thing for those ideas.

It's kind of stupid to take out good things that have wide support among the electorate.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:24 AM
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11. Oh, I agree--there should have been a public option or Medicare buy-in.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:41 AM
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21. Precisely... they've done it all backwards... nt
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:21 AM
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8. Now all we need is an election where only Dems vote!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:24 AM
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12. Public opinion will shift on this issue, it's just a matter of which way.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:22 AM
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9. With nearly 60% of Indeps disapproving, its not a good sign. nm
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:27 AM
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14. It's honestly about what I expect right now. There's been so much negativity
surrounding this legislation, it's not too surprising that Indies are skeptical.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:28 AM
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15. I find it kind of funny...
...that "independents" are the same dumbasses that vote in horrible politicos like Bush, Lieberman, and Nelson.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:29 AM
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18. They tend to be somewhat conservative or libertarian--but don't want to call themselves
Republican. I know, I'm married to one.
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:29 AM
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17. yeah but the indies
seem to be disappointed as well.
if the dems lose the indies they're screwed
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:30 AM
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19. We don't even have a bill yet. These numbers will change, either
for the worse or the better. But it's pretty important that Dems are mostly supportive--that's the first priority.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:20 AM
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5. The question is what they were voting on in those polls
With so much misinformation about HCR I doubt anyone can put any faith in these polls as real expressions of public opinion.

It will be up to Obama and the Democrats in Congress to lay out HCR in a way that everyone can clearly understand once it is finalized. Until then these polls will be meaningless.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:23 AM
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10. The questionb was do you favor a public option and/or Medicare buy in?
Pretty straightforward.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:28 AM
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16. You are assuming if you favor PO or Medicare you are against the bill
I favor a public option and/or a Medicare buy in but I support the Senate bill because I believe it is a very large step in the right direction though severely flawed.

I support the Senate bill because I have had the benefit of a lot of information about it and what it will do particularly for the poor and uninsured but I seriously doubt the general public is as informed as I am or everyone who comes to DU. That's why I believe that once the bill is passed and signed there will be a full explanation of all of its good points that may change polling numbers significantly.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:44 AM
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22. Exactly, I find it amazing that DUers are spinning that fact away.
It's the same thing Faux does every day.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:20 AM
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6. Pretty clear who really
matters and it isn't the people.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:26 AM
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13. Do any voters really know what the "proposed health care plan" is?
It's hard to keep up. I have never seen an idea rise and die so fast in DC like the Medicare expansion plan did. And we still don't know what the end product is going to be.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:25 AM
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24. By and large they've got the idea it's about fucking them
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 11:44 AM by kenny blankenship
which is kind of the general idea. So you could say they know basically what they need to know about it and don't need to apologize for not being too curious about the rest.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:35 AM
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20. K&R
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:03 AM
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23. If dems do medicare for all via reconciliation then 2010 will be a slam dunk, they can add...
...35 - 57 yr olds as payers into medicare and then run against the GOP taking the coverage away for that group and kill the GOP.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:13 PM
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25. Sounds like Obama/Dems could get their poll ratings up by advocating for a public option and
an expansion of medicare. Someone notify so called moderates!
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:14 PM
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26. Quinnipiac has always been so reliable...
:sarcasm:
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