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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:24 PM
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"President Obama's advisors are enabling his most troubling character flaw, his conflict-avoidance"
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 04:38 PM by Better Believe It



Is Obama's Problem That He Just Doesn't Want to Deal with Conflict?
By Drew Westen
Drew Westen, Ph.D., is Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry at Emory University, founder of Westen Strategies, and author of The Political Brain: The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation.
December 23, 2009


What's costing the president are three things: a laissez faire style of leadership that appears weak and removed to everyday Americans, a failure to articulate and defend any coherent ideological position on virtually anything, and a widespread perception that he cares more about special interests like bank, credit card, oil and coal, and health and pharmaceutical companies than he does about the people they are shafting.

Consider the president's leadership style, which has now become clear: deliver a moving speech, move on, and when push comes to shove, leave it to others to decide what to do if there's a conflict, because if there's a conflict, he doesn't want to be anywhere near it.

Health care is a paradigm case. When the president went to speak to the Democrats last week on Capitol Hill, he exhorted them to pass the bill. According to reports, though, he didn't mention the two issues in the way of doing that, the efforts of Senators like Ben Nelson to use this as an opportunity to turn back the clock on abortion by 25 years, and the efforts of conservative and industry-owned Democrats to eliminate any competition for the insurance companies that pay their campaign bills. He simply ignored both controversies and exhorted.

We have seen the same pattern of pretty speeches followed by empty exhortations on issue after issue. The president has, on more than one occasion, gone to Wall Street or called in its titans (who have often just ignored him and failed to show up) to exhort them to be nice to the people they're foreclosing at record rates, yet he has done virtually nothing for those people. His key program for preventing foreclosures is helping 4 percent of those "lucky" enough to get into it, not the 75 percent he promised, and many of the others are having their homes auctioned out from right under them because of some provisions in the fine print. One in four homeowners is under water and one in six is in danger of foreclosure. Why we're giving money to banks instead of two-year loans -- using the model of student loans -- to homeowners to pay their mortgages (on which they don't have to pay interest or principal for two years, while requiring their banks to renegotiate their interest rates in return for saving the banks from "toxic assets") is something the average person doesn't understand. And frankly, I don't understand it, either. I thought I voted Democratic in the last election. Same with the credit card companies. Great speech about the fine print. Then the rates tripled.

The president has exhorted the banks, who are getting zero-interest money, to give more of it to small businesses. But they have no incentives to do that. There are too many high-yield, reasonably low risk investments to make with zero-interest federal loans. I wouldn't mind a few billion to play around with right now myself, and I can't say I'd start with some guy who wants to start his own heating and air company, or an existing small business owner who is hanging on by his fingernails in tough economic times. I'd put my money in something like emerging markets, or maybe Canada. (Have you noticed how well Canadian equities are doing lately?) Or perhaps Chinese wind turbines. (Oh, we're investing there already with stimulus funds.)

The time for exhortation is over. FDR didn't exhort robber barons to stem the redistribution of wealth from working Americans to the upper 1 percent, and neither did his fifth cousin Teddy. Both men told the most powerful men in the United States that they weren't going to rip off the American people any more, and they stopped backed up their words with actions. Teddy Roosevelt was clear that capital gains taxes should be high relative to income taxes because we should reward work, not "gambling in stocks." This President just doesn't have the stomach to make anyone do anything they don't want to do, and his advisors are enabling his most troubling character flaw, his conflict-avoidance.

Please read the full article at:

http://www.alternet.org/politics/144760/is_obama%27s_problem_that_he_just_doesn%27t_want_to_deal_with_conflict
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:28 PM
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1. How many different ways can they
tear this president down. It is really getting old.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:29 PM
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3. Its not tear him down
Its an attempt to move him towards the President we thought we were getting instead of a DLC clone.

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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:23 PM
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14. Just celebrate this healthcare 'victory' along with the health insurance industry.
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:30 PM
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18. Actually
I will be celebrating this small victory with the hopes that it will be improved in the near future.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:36 PM
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4. Why do you tear liberals and progressives like Drew Westen down?

Now would you like to comment on the artice if you have actually read it?

Any comments at all that you'd like to share with DU'ers without personal attacks?

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:38 PM
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5. so NOTHING in the article is true in any way, shape, or form? (nt)
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:55 PM
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9. Riiight...
Sorry but this is feeling more and more like a DLC "keeping our powder dry" kind of avoidance. He should have chosen at least a few more real progressive reformers for his team and a few less of the corporate Democrats.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:27 PM
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17. True. I don't think President Obama and our - Progressive GOALS mesh together.
He's forming up to be more Clintonian than FDR. :(
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:29 PM
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2. K & R.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:45 PM
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6. I think I prefer believing he and Pelosi and Reid
have been blacked mailed since Bush's NSA days...

:eyes:
rocktivity
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:51 PM
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8. If that were true, why did he run for President of the United States?

"They" forced him too? I just don't think that's very plausible.

He could have stayed in the Senate.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 05:24 PM
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11. k/r. nt
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:20 PM
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13. Oddly, he fought to win the primaries
He appeared tireless and got better at it as time passed. A real hands-on approach. So this assessment is hard to believe unless he's pulled back on purpose.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:33 PM
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19. I've thought that myself, but the cynic in me interprets that as:
"He's motivated to fight for himself, but not so much for others".
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:39 PM
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21. I couldn't think of a way to articulate that well enough
It remains then that he can find the way when he has the will.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:14 PM
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22. Right...but I hope it's not a case of "if" he has the will.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 09:52 AM
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35. Actually, it was manifest in the primaries too.
Edited on Sun Dec-27-09 09:52 AM by JVS
Clinton was constantly "going in for the kill" Obama had to avoid going negative (Hillary crying in NH was bad for his results) and relied instead on a better organized group of activists. If an attack had to be made, it was through a proxy. The final delegate count was close enough to make for an ugly convention, so he made a deal with now-SOS Clinton and as a result lots of DLCers are in prominent positions, while people like Kerry, Dean, and other liberals whose work put him into the nomination were forgotten. The pattern of conflict avoidance is there.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:25 PM
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15. I posted this the other day and I truly believe it - Hawaiians believe in "Ain't no big thing!"
And I think he is so easy going that he just doesn't have it in him to want to argue over anything. It is what it is and that is all it is. That is just the way most Hawaiians look at things. I get my temper up a lot like my ancestor's from Ireland do when they get passionate about something. I wish he could pull some of that from his Irish roots.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:10 AM
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27. I really don't see it that way at all, but agree that local culture influences his conflict style.
There's a lot more to it that 'no big thing'. See my post below if you'd like.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:27 PM
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16. OMG!
How did he survive the debates? :rofl:

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:34 PM
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20. "Campaigning" - to include debates - and "leadership" require diverging skill sets.
I'm seeing an excellent motivational speaker in President Obama (Drive & Balance) but LITTLE TO NO Combined Traits expressed that would form-up to anything resembling LEADERSHIP.

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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 04:54 PM
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28. Obviously I disagree with you completely.
Really? You've seen no evidence of drive, cognitive ability, emotional stability, self confidence, integrity and honesty, or desire to leadfrom our President? I disagree with him about big parts of this bill, but I can't agree with that.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:20 AM
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23. the last paragraph is the clincher: he has asked not FORCED the powerful to change their ways
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:06 PM
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37. Forced?
what kind of person would do that? How? Even Cheney didn't do that. You've jumped the shark.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 06:55 AM
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24. Being a coward is not acceptable ...
for someone who deems himself qualified to be a leader.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 07:57 AM
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25. I think it's just a cultural difference. He did grow up here in the islands, and there is a major
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 08:24 AM by mahina
difference in the way we do conflict here.


I think the author is coming from a very western eurocentric understanding of conflict that seems simplistic and one-dimensional from out here in the middle of the ocean, where we have to get along after we win.


In the business community there's much more concern for saving your opponent's face. We still fight to win, absolutely. It doesn't mean we don't enter into conflict, we do- but it's done more subtly. We don't leave them disgraced unless we have a hell of a good reason to do so, because we're all going to see each other for the rest of our lives. It's a style thing.


For example, I have a competitor who has a very different conflict style. If a vendor brings work he can't sell, he'll tell him everything that's wrong with it and add a pretty nasty insult or two for good measure. If I can't sell a vendor's products, I'll usually thank him for thinking of me and let him know that though I don't have a market I'm sure others will; then I'll help him with any suggestions of better venues for him if I can. Guess which one is island style? Guess which approach earns respect?

(I don't know if it's because he's from the continent or not; when I lived there for a few years I never met anyone like that.)
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:09 AM
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26. delete
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 08:17 AM by moondust
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shadesofgray Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:27 PM
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29. That article nails it.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 05:31 PM
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30. What a crock of shit !
:evilfrown:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 03:49 PM
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31. A very apt analysis I think.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 11:15 AM
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32. He's not afraid of conflict he just doesn't fear corporate power
and thinks the status quo is okay but needs minor adjustments.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:05 AM
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33. For weekend DU'ers
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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:39 AM
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34. you get paid on weekends too?
:puke:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:04 PM
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36. Explain your statement. What are you claiming or suggesting?

I'm listening.
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