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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:26 PM Original message |
Andrew Sullivan in the tank for the truth |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. You do know he's a Republican, right? n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. I thought the idea was to lay down with Teabaggers |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. And now, back to the point - |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Exactly. Palin loved that he's ramping up the war in Afghanistan. |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
78. And you believe her? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Doesn't take much to get you going, does it? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. Grover Norquist is our friend, Frenchie |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
79. You're right about Hamster. And to think I used to listen to this |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
83. That's exactly the point.. "Marching With Teabaggers" |
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kayla9170 (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
88. LOL BURN......... |
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. He renounced the Republican brand of conservatism some time ago. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. You do know he's not a U.S. citizen and is therefore not a member of any U.S. political party right? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Yes, you're right. I knew his status as a non-citizen. |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Sullivan is trying to become an American citizen. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
72. The HIV immigration ban was a nasty piece of work dreamed up by Jesse Helms, IIRC. Glad it got |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
66. Damn...I'm sitting here about to fall out of my chair. An eruption of Civility! A polite reply! |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. A doff of the hat to you. n/t |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. You do know that Sullivan essentially recanted many of his positions, right? n/t |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Not really. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. He voted for and supports President Obama (and voted for Kerry) |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. As was pointed out to me - |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Point taken |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. I wish people would stop posting to his Republican garbage. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. they just can't get enough of Bareback Andy. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The same guy who helped foment popular hatred against |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. What does his sex life have to do with his political opinion?? I swear I have to check |
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Personal attacks seem to have become the meme for Obama haters here. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. That, and stout defenses of Blackface has become the cool thing for the anti-Obama cretins flooding |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
46. I didn't bring up his sex life, I just called him by a commonly |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
49. Exactly. It's disgusting how posters at DU feel free to take jabs at gays and men's sex organs. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:21 PM Original message |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
65. I was going to point that out, but didn't want to steal your thunder. |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
71. Yep, you've got a purity test. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. My purity test: don't make a career of demonizing me while doing far worse things in private |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #11 |
93. because he was a leader of the lynch clinton mob when he had his affair with Lewinski |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. You don't like pro Obama articles..Sullivan voted for Kerry |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. So? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Ah, no. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. You must be very young, or I very old, because I remember his writings from 2002 and 2003. |
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Have you read him in the last few years? |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. You mean the guy that championed the racist book the Bell Curve? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. His garbage is better than those who think that Barack Obama is a commodity |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Heaven forbid he should actually do some of the things he promised. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Ha - +1,000,000. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. So you're okay with racists as long as they support your cause? |
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Oh please. I read Sullivan regularly and he is no Republican. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. If he's changed parties, it's news to me. |
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Read his blog. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. Does he still hate Social Security and Medicare, and oppose publicly funded healthcare? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Oh, 'libertarian' is so 2008. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. It's more supportive of Democrats than fake claims of Obama being a liar |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
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LastNaturalist (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. Andrew Sullivan has become one of the best talking heads out there. |
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. You bet. nt |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 04:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
91. Agreed. From the campaign onward I've found him an intriguing and thought-provoking read. nt |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
17. Yes the only thing Andrew Sullivan disagrees with the President is Gay Rights |
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Sullivan is not a neocon. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I've read his bio |
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Man, what bio did you read? That is total nonsense. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Enjoy! |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. His views have changed dramatically in the past few years. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Is he still against publicly funded Healthcare, Medicare, and Social Security |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. So what? Do you have a purity test to determine who is allowed to support D candidates? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Well, his stand on these issues would certainly impact his opinion- |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. When someone hates everything FDR and LBJ created |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
84. Sullivan may have realized |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. +1 |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
33. This is a fair, logical assessment. |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
40. I'm beginning to be more than a little pissed |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. That you and so many others here blithely dismiss his former neocon sympathies |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Thanks for your thoughts |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. You, too. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
41. Sully called Dick Cheney 'sexy' during the Iraq invasion |
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LastNaturalist (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. And Howard Dean roared like an idiot in 2004. We all make mistakes. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. A yell after a long primary is compared to love of Dick Cheney? |
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LastNaturalist (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Well, considering that was the first caucus and no primary had even taken place yet. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. He practically lived in Iowa for 6 months |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I've had many, but none for a Republican war monger |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Dean did not roar like an idiot, winger. |
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LastNaturalist (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Okay then, Dean squealed, name-caller. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
76. No but you love you some Andrew Sullivan |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Word. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
77. The only ideological test is: |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
81. Attacking Dean and defending Cheney. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #45 |
94. actually no he didn't |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
58. AHHH! Andrew Sullivan......good for you! Love this: |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #58 |
92. Obama also told us |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
62. Bell Curve Andy. Wow. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
69. all of you who trash Jane Hampsher yet embrace Andrew |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
74. Pat Buchanan - Truth Warrior? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
82. OMG! Such sentiment is profoundly WHACK. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
87. What the fuck does civil marriage in DC have to do with Obama? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
89. LOL |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
90. Not much truth in this sentence. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Are you being sarcastic? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
95. Andrew Sullivan seems to be in the tank only for Andrew Sullivan. |
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Nancy Waterman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
96. Great article! |
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