Pelosi and Reid.. you guys just rock.. and President Obama.. smart move

[Peacetrain]

:yourock:

Someday we will look back at this, and see how it was finessed, by the President and Pelosi and Reid..

Unbelievable good work

Even Harwood, had to admit this morning.. they (the media) got it wrong.

What some wanted to perceive as either weakness or non involvement.. was actually a well oiled machine at work.

HCR would never have gotten this far without it.

Now is the time to retool the bill in conference.

We will not get 100% of all we want at first swipe.. but I will take 80% any day of the week over a big fat ZERO

[FreakinDJ]

1. Lets see who get taxed before we applaud

if they Tax union health benefits then the Dems are doomed in 2010/2012

[Avalux]

2. Obama will be heavily involved in conference and merging the bills.

Up until now, Obama really hasn't been involved in the process. I'm excited to see what comes from it!

:hi:

[Peacetrain]

5. Now is when the rubber hits the road as they say.. first they had to get it through

houses.. this is when it is important to lobby and lobby hard on a personal level :hi:

[Clio the Leo]

9. Orrin Hatch accused the President of shutting the GOP out of the process...

.... "The Reid bill was written by him and the WH." I think the President was more involved than we'll know for quite some time. ;)

[niceypoo]

14. The Baucus bill was a bitter pill that we swallowed

'because it could be fixed in the Senate.'

It is now, by far, the more progressive of the two bills. At every step it went further and further and further to the right, yet not a single republican voted for it.

The privatization of national health care and the institutionalization of private insurance all in one shot. Sounds like a Bush era wet dream.

[lamp_shade]

3. "Let's Get This Done" - Ted Kennedy.

[Peacetrain]

6. I was so touched by the accolades that have been given TK.. and yep.. lets get this done

[nightrain]

4. naive. it's a terrible precedent to transfer peoples' money to corporations.

[MercutioATC]

8. Exactly.

If it took watering down the bill this much to get it passed, where's the indication that they'll be able to "fix" it in reconciliation?

[nightrain]

13. we shall see what wonderful "fix" they have in store for us....try somehing affordable this time...

[rocktivity]

7. If Obama signs a bill with mandates but no public option of any kind, his presidency ends

because to stop him and the Dems on everything else, all LIEberman, the Repubs and conservaDems have to do is rinse and repeat.

But Obama is clearly intelligent enough to understand that--I think he was right to lay back and let Congress do what they're supposed to. He knew that the media would have crucified him as a power-mad obstructionist partisan despot if he hadn't (though when Bush did it, they called it moral courage).

The fat lady hasn't come onstage yet. He can still save the day.


rocktivity

[tabasco]

10. You got that right.

Turning this country around is like turning around a supertanker.

But we have reversed the republican race to the bottom and are moving in the right direction.

[MannyGoldstein]

11. I Think "The Big Lie" Disproves This

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x416707">Countdown: President Obama's Claims Of Not Having Campaigned On The Public Option Debunked

They have no basic belief system other than personal gain. We're getting sodomized again.

[smiley_glad_hands]

12. Oh, horse sht. eom

[Phx_Dem]

15. Agreed. I'm a little bit in shock that both Houses have actually passed HCR.

Now on to Conference!

[Cha]

16. How could it not be a well oiled machine?

They don't get this far with flying by the seat of their pants.

It will be interesting to find out the intricacies of this down the road.

Who is "Harwood" and how did the media get it wrong? I can imagine but could you give any details? Thanks Peacetrain:)

[jeanpalmer]

17. It's all process.

Sometimes, a big fat zero is better than 80%....

[firedupdem]

18. K&R Thanks Peacetrain! n/t

[burning rain]

19. I'd like to see Pelosi & House Dems insist on public option in the final bill.

Not coddle weak-kneed senators moaning that they can't 60 votes with a public option. They don't need 60 votes; they choose to require 60. They need to toughen up and pass a bill with public option, using the nuclear option.