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NewLIfeArea Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:22 PM
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Obama Stuck on salute to way for Air Force One?
As the first family made their way from Martine One to Air Force One Thursday morning to board the nine-hour light to Hawaii, FLOTUS, Malia and Sasha boarded the plan first, while Obama chatted with some of the Air Force men and women who greeted him on the tarmac.

POTUS tried to shake the hand of one of them, at the foot of AF1 stairs, but the airman either wouldn’t or couldn’t let go of the salute.

Also spotted boarding Air Force One, NSC chief of staff Denis McDonough and what appeared to be his family.

see pictures on website
http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1209/mixed_greetings_8c3923b9-b22e-406d-a06b-07de3f2edcba.html

(I try to set pictures on message form, but it doesn't work. Do you know how.. I'm newest..)
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:24 PM
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1. Probably some regs thing. Pic --->
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NewLIfeArea Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:26 PM
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5. That pictues
Does Obama Stuck or Salute?
To me.. A Thousand word on one pictures..

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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:32 PM
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9. Military courtesy......?
I believe that when the CIC returns the salute, the two airmen will drop their arms.

Is there a video of the transaction?
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:56 PM
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13. Military protocol requires that the salute be returned.
I am sure that it was a little startling for the airmen. After all, most folks might get a little rattled when meeting the POTUS, and confusion can result. It could take a moment to respond in that situation.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 04:37 AM
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17. Alternatively couldn't he say "at ease"?
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:29 PM
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19. yes, I believe so.n/t
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:39 PM
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20. One would think that the President putting out his hand for a shake
.._if_ he did do that - would constitute an implicit "at ease" command.

Can totally understand the airman being afraid of violating protocol, though. :)
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:27 PM
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21. And the photo could have been taken at that precise moment of confusion.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:24 PM
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2. So what is politico trying to stir up, that the airman doesn't like him? /nt
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:26 PM
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4. ding! ding! ding!
you win the prize
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:25 PM
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3. Since when did people shake hands with their palms up?
sounds like bullshit to me (based on the picture)
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:29 PM
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6. Politico is bullshit period
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NewLIfeArea Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:31 PM
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7. Yeah!!
I would like to you see that pictures
:) :) :)
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:36 PM
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10. .
:wtf:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 03:06 AM
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15. bullshit....right along with Bo not going to hawaii n/t
:yawn:
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:31 PM
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8. The Airman did right, the lower ranking solider doesn't lower his salute until the higher ranking
officer salutes him back, otherwise the lower ranking person holds the salute. It's a sign of respect, so no controversy here.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:55 PM
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12. Although I know nothing about protocol, I believe that you are right.
I heard this story a little while ago on the radio. The older officer shook his hand, but the younger one held his salute.

From what I understood from the commentary, it is unusual for the Commander in Chief to shake hands with service women/men in this situation. The poor kid probably didn't know what to do!

I agree... no controversy here.
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NewLIfeArea Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:42 PM
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11. Crazy
That's my point..
Sometime the pictures would be lie or trick you...
I want to see the video... to prove
:shrug:
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 01:02 AM
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14. where's the vid? Did he eventually het his handshake? NT
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 07:27 AM
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22. To prove...what?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 04:33 AM
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16. When I saluted LBJ face to face and he offered me his hand, I shook it.
Edited on Fri Dec-25-09 04:41 AM by TexasObserver
Lady Bird was there, too, right beside him. He didn't salute me back. That was 1968.

The SSGT should have simply shaken the president's hand. The CIC doesn't have to return salutes, if he doesn't feel like it. He's the CIC. He's the boss of the military. This isn't even an issue except among the nut jobs of Fox News and their ilk. While military protocol requires a soldier to salute officers, that's a military protocol. The president is CIC, but he's a civilian. Presidents such as Bush love to be saluted, and wallow in their military role. Not all presidents do so.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:00 AM
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18. Politico doesn't know how to spell plane. So that means they don't know jack shit.
Edited on Fri Dec-25-09 09:00 AM by LiberalFighter
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