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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 01:37 AM Original message |
Obama’s first year marked by pragmatism |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. It isn't pragmatism, but raw corporatism and imperialism that has marked the first year |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. But,but,but....Placating Oligarchs is pragmatic. We need them to "trickle down" on us |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Thanks for the well reasoned, highly detailed |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. yeah, how dare he not hold onto the single payer chess piece |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. He surrendered that piece on his opening move |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. yeah |
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shadesofgray (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. +100000000000000000 |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Well, he really didn't ask to be left with such a shit-storm |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. Corporatism, not pragmatism. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
38. Which is very pragmatic for Obama. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
4. "reflective of his years as a law professor." |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. That's why Obama is protecting John Yoo, of torture memo infamy |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
35. Dupe deleted. |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
33. The lawyers that I know are quite happy with Obama. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. I'll never get used to this "new English"... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 04:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Of course you're doing what you accuse him of. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Spoken like a true armchair chickenhawk who has no clue how accomplishments are made. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I understand how they "accomplish" things...and it's weak. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Pointing out that no progress was made is considered being an arm chair strategist |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It seems more appropriate than 3d chess, turning a big ship around, the car is skidding etc |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I think "pretentious, nonreality based idealog" will be sufficient for the moment. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yes pointing out the obvious is now ideological |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I've yet to see you post a single substantive thing |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I reserve the substance for people that want it. Negativity for the sake of negativity... |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Like I said |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Deleted message |
AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. What was dishonest |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Wow |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. It is called Newspeak, and there is a dictionary of Newspeak |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
12. We must crush all the moderates and Rethuglikkkans |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
14. Is that what we are calling it now |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
28. He's not a transformative figure - he's a co-opting President |
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shadesofgray (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
32. Funny how that "pragmatism" is big business's wet dream and screws the |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
34. When is corporatism called pragmatism? When the corporations pay you to call it that. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
36. I would disagree with one thing the article says - |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
37. The difference between Kerry and Obama: |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. K&R for telling the unvarnished truth! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
43. "Pragmatism" = Corporatist Capitulationism. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. In some ways Odin |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. The administration's vicious attack on Dean really shocked me. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-27-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Sorry you feel that way |
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