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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:33 AM
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Will the president take the obvious lesson of the HCR disaster and give up"bipartisanship"?
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 03:05 AM by Ken Burch
The united anti-health front put up by the GOP Senate caucus proves that that party will NEVER want to meet him halfway, will never display any humane ideas, will never be interested in doing anything but DESTROYING him.

Will our formerly "progressive" leader finally face reality on this?

Will he finally admit he needs people to his left, and accept that people to his right are never GOING To back him?

Even the independents don't want the guy to be a masochist.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:37 AM
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1. No, no, no.
Senator Lieberman has declared the 111th Congress to be a drama-free zone from now on. We should enjoy our nice health care reform. I understand that tire tracks on your back are not a pre-existing condition!
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:39 AM
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2. Considering he recently criticized the filibuster, I'd say he has.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:50 AM
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3. are you fucking kidding? He's already said he "got what he wanted"
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:59 AM
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5. That sounds like something you hear a guy say after a really sleazy cheap date.
That, or it's a pathetically attempt at face-saving.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 03:13 AM
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8. the operation was a success even if the patient died
that kind of thing
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:55 AM
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4. He's a quick study, so it's possible.
But I've had my hopes dashed so many times, and I see nothing in his history that would lead me to expect anything except more offerings of that olive branch from him, so I won't hold my breath. He is like Don Quixote chasing the elusive bipartisanship, fighting only his most earnest supporters and the people he should be fighting for. It's heartbreaking to watch the futility of it all and, worse, the collapse and the compromise of ideals. What exactly does he think he gained from this?
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 03:12 AM
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6. I heard on NPR the other day that
every one on the right is calling Obama a socialist ... ask anyone of them what has he done that was socialist and they will have no answer because there isn't one. Now, if they are going to call him one, what not just go ahead and do something that might be slightly construed as being a little socialist? Yeah, I know, logic and politics don't mix.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 03:29 AM
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10. Absolutely!!! Shove it in their face.
But he won't. Ever. There's nothing remotely socialist that he would fight for.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 03:31 AM
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11. Nothing is right ...
And he's missing a backbone too. *sigh* In my lifetime I would have loved to have seen a fighter.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 03:12 AM
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7. No, he seems dominated with the inside the beltway thinking at this stage
He simply has too many Clinton era operatives around him that I think are still working from the 90's common wisdom and the third way style politics.

I'm starting to think Plouffe was the real innovative thinker and that he is missed.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 03:25 AM
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9. Also, he would never announce that he's ending his quest for bipartisanship,
even if he did stop pursuing it (which he won't).
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