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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:36 PM
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Obama's choice for Marine Commandant says "Marines will die if DADT is lifted"
http://gay.americablog.com/2010/12/marine-commandant-attacks-dadt-repeal.html

General James Amos, commandant of the Marine Corps and an opponent of lifting the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" prohibition, cited a Pentagon study saying Marines fighting in Afghanistan were worried that permitting gays to serve openly could disrupt "unit cohesion."

"When your life hangs on a line, on the intuitive behavior of the young man ... who sits to your right and your left, you don't want anything distracting you," Amos told reporters at the Pentagon.

"I don't want to lose any Marines to distraction. I don't want to have any Marines that I'm visiting at Bethesda (hospital) with no legs," he said.

He added that "mistakes and inattention or distractions cost Marine's lives. That is the currency of this fight.

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Are you kidding me? What does this man have to say to get fired? Totally dispicable.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:38 PM
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1. "My GOD they're going to kill us, Bob. You have a nice ass, by the way. You wanna go out sometime?"
Edited on Tue Dec-14-10 06:39 PM by originalpckelly
I can hear it now.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:42 PM
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2. They said that and more after HST integrated the services. HST said
you don't like it, get out.
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:43 PM
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3. You mean. . .this guy thinks that KNOWING that some of their brothers at arms are gay will
"distract" them and that it will endanger them????

What exactly would "distract" them??? Looking at their "brothers at arms' bottom???"

Give me a break!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:44 PM
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4. clearly this man does not see gay folk as human beings
he sees them as sexual deviants who cannot control themselves
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:47 PM
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5. Seriously, what is going to distract them? All teh gays gettin it on?
Since teh gay can't control themselves, it will be pretty distracting sitting there waiting for whatever and all them starts gettin it on!

You got it right there, gay folk aren't human beings but sexual deviants who can't control themselves. Rather like, oh, write down another stereotyped comment about another group. grrrr
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:19 PM
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14. I was a gal in the military
it certainly wasn't the lesbians who could not control themselves :mad:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:22 PM
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16. +1
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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:48 PM
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6. His bigoted views are probably welcome by No Marriage Equality Obama
Birds of a feather if you ask me.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:54 PM
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7. It's Just One Branch Of The Service!
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:08 PM
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8. What an ass he is
fucking unbelievable. Is this man sane?
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:10 PM
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9. "Marines will die if DADT is lifted"
Edited on Tue Dec-14-10 07:10 PM by AsahinaKimi
Marines will die if we don't get out of Afghanistan...
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:10 PM
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10. These people haven't caused them to die yet?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:12 PM
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11. I'm sure he and Obama agree. Maybe they can get Rick warren
Say a 2 minute prayer over their new found bromance.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:12 PM
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12. he should stfu and listen to his cic
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:29 PM
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44. If his CiC didn't want him giving his opinoin, then he should not have been made
available to testify.

Don't ask a Marine any question you might not like his answer to.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:13 PM
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13. what a wimp
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:19 PM
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15. He is publically disagreeing with the stated position of his Commander-in-Chief.
He should be fired. Now.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:27 PM
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17. Marine corpse is swamped with closet gays who think they will be cured if they are a marine nt
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 08:51 PM
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18. Ummm so DSC your heading is implying that it's Obama's
fault that this man is an idiot and not professional? So now President Obama is supposed to be a mind reader and foresee what his appointees will do? Really?

The Marine Commandant guy is an idiot! He is responsible for his lack of decor and professionalism.

Geesh....would you responsible for your boneheaded friends or coworkers saying and doing stupid shit? I would guess not!
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 08:58 PM
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19. He is not Obama's co-worker - Obama is his boss
Edited on Tue Dec-14-10 08:58 PM by FreeState
fault that this man is an idiot and not professional? So now President Obama is supposed to be a mind reader and foresee what his appointees will do? Really?

The Marine Commandant guy is an idiot! He is responsible for his lack of decor and professionalism.

Geesh....would you responsible for your boneheaded friends or coworkers saying and doing stupid shit? I would guess not!


Obama chose him, the President is his boss. So yes President Obama is responsible for his subordinates, and IMO he should either fire him or reprimand him.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 09:04 PM
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21. This is insubordination.
This is a man who is directly contradicting the stated wish of his Consitutionally designated Commander-in-Chief.

As was mentioned in this thread, President Harry Truman would have fired this man. Immediately. As he had every right to.

President Obama has every right to summon General Amos to the White House to explain certain things to him. How, for instance, he called for the repeal of DADT.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 01:14 PM
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40. The joint chiefs don't speak for the President on matters like this
Which is why Admiral Mullen's testimony was so powerful. If Obama sacks his detractors in the military then the credibility of his supporters will be called into question.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:24 PM
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42. Agreed!
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:32 PM
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45. For the love of God, at least know the difference between an order and a wish
before accusing a man of insubordination.

DADT is the current order. Once Obama repeals it, then speaking out would be insubordinate. Until then, Tamer has been asked his opinion and is giving it. If Obama doesn't want Tamer to give his opinion, don't let him testify.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 09:07 PM
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24. Since the repel of DADT is on the radar screen
I, personally, would have hoped the CIC would have asked an appointee what his opinions were. Did he forget the military revue that was coming up?
This explains how so many Bush appointees are still in place.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 09:16 PM
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26. And here I thought the OP was implying that
Obama was making another foolish appointment. I had no idea the OP was saying it's Obama's fault that this man is a fucking idiot. Wow thanks for clearing that up.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 11:31 PM
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29. I must defend dsc here.
I don't read his heading that way at all.

I will tell you this, this "Commandant" should be discharged for making such outrageous, inflamatory and bigoted comments.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 05:48 AM
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30. It isn't his fault the man isn't professional but it is his fault the man is Commandant
Obama knew this man's position when he appointed him and did it anyway.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 05:55 AM
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31. So?
How does that reflect on his level of professionalism?
That doesn't make any sense to me.
It was just his opinion, after all.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 06:00 AM
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33. would anyone dare hire a person whose opinion was that
letting blacks in the Marines lead to Marines dying? Why is this any different whatsoever? He was one day in the job before he went to Congress and told them his opinion, unsolicited.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 06:07 AM
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34. That's not the same thing.
I don't live to argue, but this ain't the same thing as desegregating the Marine Corps.
Which took about 30 years to fully implement.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 09:06 AM
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37. It took no such amount of time
that is utter hogwash. From Truman's order until 1953 or so is how long it took. And yes, it is exactly and precisely the same thing. Bigotry is bigotry is bigotry.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:23 PM
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38. So will he fire Amos?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 09:00 PM
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20. Harry Truman would have "retired" this guy by nightfall. n/t
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mgc1961 Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 09:05 PM
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22. I have a suggestion, general.
Recruit more men instead of fearful little boys. Problem solved.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:25 PM
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43. Bingo!
No one points out and asks what they are really afraid of do they?
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 09:07 PM
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23. Oh General Amos, now who's being a drama queen
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 09:11 PM
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25. So losing your legs means you work with gay people?
Am I reading this correlation correctly? No Marines have ever lost their legs because of say... a roadside bomb, or a land mine? Nope they are only because of teh gay??

Honestly, he really wants to blame gay people for leg amputations?? What. The. Fuck.

Shitcan this loser. Now.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 11:22 PM
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27. Obama seems to be a closeted homophobe
based on all his decisions and associations.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 11:29 PM
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28. Someone called me to tell me this.
Now I'm reading it and it just makes me sick.

Does this jackass know how many gay Marines have given their lives and their "legs" in our nation's wars?

What a absolutely wicked comment.

This shithead should not be commanding any young American in war or in peace.

He is shit.
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 05:57 AM
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32. What about losing Marines to bigotry
is he concerned about that?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 06:14 AM
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35. I am shocked!
Oh wait...no I am not.

Maybe we should get another survey? Can someone pleeeeeeeeease say a prayer (you have a two minute time limit)?!

***screech*** WHAT SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR, HELPLESS MARINES?!?! ***screech***

Perhaps he has a real fear. Gays can certainly be judgmental. Maybe he is afraid that us homos will gaze upon his manhood....point and giggle and bust out in a rousing chorus (cuz we all are performers) of "Don't Want No Short Dick Man!"
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:39 AM
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36. From what? A terminal case of the vapors?
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:32 PM
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39. Marines will die from broken hearts when their now "out of the
closet" lovers will have a bigger field to choose from.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 01:14 PM
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41. i guess this asshole didn't read the pentagon report.
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