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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 12:29 AM
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More than 1,000 dead birds fall from sky in Arkansas
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40874105/ns/us_news-environment/

More than 1,000 dead birds fall from sky in Ark.

BEEBE, Ark. — The Arkansas Game and Fish Commission said Saturday more than 1,000 dead black birds fell from the sky in Beebe. The agency said its enforcement officers began receiving reports about the dead birds about 11:30 p.m. Friday. The birds fell over a one-mile area of the city, and an aerial survey indicated that no other dead birds were found outside of that area, officials said.

Robby King, a wildlife officer for the agency, collected about 65 dead birds, which will be sent for testing to the state Livestock and Poultry Commission lab and the National Wildlife Health Center lab in Madison, Wis. Commission ornithologist Karen Rowe said that similar events have occurred elsewhere and that test results "usually were inconclusive."

The birds showed physical trauma, said Rowe, who surmised that "the flock could have been hit by lightning or high-altitude hail." The agency also said another possibility is that New Year's Eve revelers shooting off fireworks in the area could have startled the birds from their roost and caused them to die from stress.

It's doubtful the birds were poisoned, Rowe said, "since it only involved a flock of black birds and only involved them falling out of the sky." She said a necropsy is the only way to determine if the birds were poisoned.



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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 12:40 AM
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1. Could this have beern a result of the tornado'hurricane in Ar.?
I heard there were 6 people who died in that storm, so isn't it possible that it could have affected the birds too?
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 12:44 AM
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2. Thought that for a moment, too
But, am also thinking that usually if critters fall from the sky after a storm/tornado, such as raining frogs, it most likely would happen in close proximity to the timing of the storm unless the updraft caught the critters and carried them for a long way before atmospheric changes allowed them to fall to earth...

My short answer: :shrug:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 06:46 AM
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8. It's only a myth that fish and frogs can fall from the sky.
Edited on Sun Jan-02-11 06:47 AM by Ian David
It's Raining Frogs and Fish

<snip>

Drop a frog off a building, and unless it's extremely small, it goes splat; so undoubtedly, what people think they're seeing in these stories can't be what's actually going on. If the frog didn't come from the sky, could it have come from somewhere else?

Frogs do swarm naturally on occasion. It happens frequently enough that people start to correlate these events with other things that happened: Storms, earthquakes, celebrity deaths, what have you. It's been reported that frog swarms were correlated with both the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake in California, and the 2008 Sichuan earthquake in China. Shortly thereafter, when frogs swarmed in Bakersfield, California, some called for earthquake preparedness. Needless to say, there was no earthquake; just a random population explosion of frogs. Sometimes these explosions can be dramatic. In 2004, four hurricanes hit Florida, making that state about the wettest it's ever been. The local species of frogs and toads all had a banner year, described by the Florida Museum of Natural History as a carpet.

Every spring and fall, frogs migrate between shallow breeding ponds and deeper lakes. Because they're amphibians and need to keep their skin moist, they migrate most often during rainstorms. In many cases, the day with the right conditions will come, and the whole frog population will move cross-country en masse, across roads, across properties, wherever it needs to go. When you look outside during a heavy rainstorm and you see thousands of frogs jumping everywhere all over the ground, the illusion that they're falling from the sky and bouncing can be quite convincing. A swarm of frogs looks like ping pong balls bouncing in a lottery machine. The fact that there usually aren't frogs here adds credibility to the illusion. Throw in a healthy dose of confirmation bias and some exaggerated second, third, and fourth hand reports, and you automatically end up with every imaginable detail like the frogs were choking rain gutters on top of buildings.

Although this explanation might satisfy the stories of frogs falling from the sky, what about fish? You don't find mass migrations of fish crossing overland, do you? Well, maybe not mass migrations, but believe it or not, there are fish species that occasionally take to the ground in search of better waters. There are many species of "walking fish" in the world. Mudskippers are probably the best known variety. In Florida in 2008, a school of about 30 walking catfish emerged from the sewer during a heavy storm and went slithering around on the street. The northern snakehead is another fish that can wriggle its way around on dry land. Throughout Africa and Asia are 36 species of climbing perches. They have a special organ that allows them to breathe air, and are able to walk using their gill plates, fins and tail, despite looking completely fishlike with no obvious ambulatory limbs. None of these fish move gracefully or even look like they have the ability. To the average witness, it's a live fish flopping around on the ground where no fish has any business being, and having fallen from the sky seems as good an explanation as any.

More:
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4170

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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 01:10 AM
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4. A 7th person has since died
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 03:59 AM
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6. It was a pretty severe storm with lots of damage
the timing seems to give some support to the theory that the weather was involved.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 07:44 AM
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9. Probably not
Edited on Sun Jan-02-11 07:47 AM by Art_from_Ark
The line of tornadoes ran from the extreme northwestern part of Arkansas through Rolla, Missouri up to St. Louis. Beebe, where these birds died, is far to the east and south of that line. Also, reports of these birds' deaths started coming in at 11:30 Friday night, but the tornadoes started touching down a couple hundred miles to the west-northwest a few hours later on Saturday morning.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 09:48 AM
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12. Actually, the storm in Cincinnati struck at about 6:00 a.m. Friday.
You are correct, however, that Beebe lies about 200 miles southeast of that location.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 11:36 PM
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18. You are right about the time
Edited on Mon Jan-03-11 11:36 PM by Art_from_Ark
It was New Year's Eve, not New Year's Day, when the tornado struck.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 12:46 AM
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3. Yikes! How awful!
Both for the poor birds and for anybody or anything that was on the ground where they fell... Hope that they get to the bottom of this. :(
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 01:31 AM
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5. Charles Fort collected notes on events like this
Edited on Sun Jan-02-11 01:33 AM by starroute
He cited a number of occurrences of birds falling from the sky in The Book of the Damned and expounded on them in his usual whimsical manner.

http://books.google.com/books?id=lW1HAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA240&lpg=PA240&dq=charles+fort+birds+fall+sky&source=bl&ots=P2_fHHh-iB&sig=-zlN4Xw_lY8LgI7d1molvt5YS-Y&hl=en&ei=vxogTfP5BIP-8Ab-8rTNDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

On edit: It occurs to me that Fort would have been delighted by the suggestion that "New Year's Eve revelers shooting off fireworks in the area could have startled the birds from their roost and caused them to die from stress." He was always monumentally amused by the attempted rational explanations of far-from-rational events.

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 04:04 AM
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7. Please refer to Stephen King's "Under the Dome" for answers. nt
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 08:06 AM
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10. Obama.
:sarcasm:
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BetsysGhost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 09:31 AM
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11. LMFAO!
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 10:01 AM
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13. Should be a warning 'graphic pic' for that link
for us bird-lovers out here :(
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 10:40 AM
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14. Is Flash Forward coming back to TV?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 10:50 AM
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15. I was thinking of WKRP
and the thanksgiving promotion gone bad.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 11:17 AM
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16. There's old Native American teachings about this
Have heard elders speak Of 'birds dropping from the sky.'
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 07:52 PM
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17. Do you recall the rest of the message? Cherokee here but didn't grow up on a Res around elders.
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