Lindsey Graham "I'm going to push for more tax cuts for the rich, paid for by seniors"

[Joanne98]

His Sunday interview "tax cuts for the rich" has a new name. It's called

"Flattening the tax base"

He won't vote for increasing the debt limit until "The tax base is flattened"

He's talking about the cat food commissions 28% tax rate for top earners. (the rich)

To be paid for with entitlement reforms (social security and medicare cuts)

We need to make sure ALL our Democrats know right now that ANY tax cuts for the rich will be punished with a primary challenge from the LEFT!

They're going to play chicken with the debt limit and their main goal is another tax cut for the rich. So be it.

It's better to DEFAULT on the debt than to give the rich another tax cut!

[SpiralHawk]

1. "More more more more for rich republicons." - Rush DraftDodger Limbaugh (R)

[pacalo]

26. ...

:rofl:

Best Limpballs pic ever!

[Swagman]

83. sure is

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[roguevalley]

46. to anyone fretting that his poor widdow wights are being

trampled by threats to out his sorry ass, may this be evidence of his need to be 'open and forthcoming to the American people'

So says RV, taking a second part time job to make ends meet

oh, and may he burn in hell for eternity

[snappyturtle]

59. +1 I hear you RV!

[roguevalley]

78. thanks, honey. I just wonder when the bad guys are going to fail.

I wish the good guys would win one once in a while. Have a great new year, sweetie.

[MindandSoul]

65. Great picture! Love it!

[Parche]

2. great

more loopholes for the rich :grr:

[Octafish]

3. I just remembered another reason I vote Democratic.

We're the Party of the little fellow, the middle classes and the downtrodden -- where all are created equal and every one is more important than any amount of money.

Oh. Wait a minute...

[shanti]

101. exactly

:thumbsup:

[FreakinDJ]

4. That is pretty sick

[Rosa Luxemburg]

67. irresponsible

[tsuki]

5. I had a senior complain to me about not getting their COLA. I told him

that he voted his COLA away to insure tax cuts for the 2%'ers, and that Social Security cuts were needed NOW to fight the deficit. I thought that a 25% cut, and a $1000 deductible on Medicare, except for the very needy, was perfectly acceptable. It would not be that much really because they would get that money back in tax cuts (see I can indulge in magical thinking when required).

Unfortunately, my arguments did not go over that well. Lots of sputtering, but it is my meme when talking to seniors complaining about the lack of COLA, and I'm sticking with it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. And you know for sure that he voted his COLA away?

What about the seniors who did NOT vote that way? Are they just screwed?

[tsuki]

41. Yes, we are screwn, as they say in Freeperville.

75% of the residents of NWF voted either Republicon or Libertarian, and this particular Senior works and contributes to the Republicons. I have tried to reason with these brain dead people, now I am using a sledge hammer to drive home the fact that they are voting against their best interests.

I intend to be my most caustic, teabagging self when I deal with such as these. No sympathy, no quarter. They will be told to pull themselves up by their own strap-on.

In conclusion, I refuse to suffer fools lightly. Since I am now a card carrying member of the Senior Generation, they won't be able to call it a generational war.

[proud2BlibKansan]

53. "They will be told to pull themselves up by their own strap-on."

OMG that's great. :rofl:

[Larkspur]

95. You mean by their own "Depends"

[lonestarnot]

14. Good job!

[bluestate10]

55. I agree with you.

Medicare allowances should be based upon need. Wealthy seniors that teabag and vote republicans should face the consequences of their votes. The fact is, red state seniors living into their late 70s, 80s and 90s get infinitely more back from SS than they pay in, even if an assumption is made that their money would grow at the historical rate of the stock market. I am a blue stater, send my states SS funds back to my state, we will take perfectly good care of our seniors.

[bobbolink]

56. How VERY nice of you to keep whipping the victims.

Then you wonder why those of us who are life-long Dems, and keep getting the cuts are saying to hell with it.

We get cut until we can't survive, then we get blamed.

You badly need to do some soul-searching.

[tsuki]

84. Victims? I have no problem whipping the victims of their own

stupidity. We need less Chamberlain and more Grayson.

[bobbolink]

109. Yes, I am stupid, as are ALL poor people. Keep it up. Enjoy yourself.

Just don't then turn around and wonder why we have no desire left to vote.

[ejpoeta]

85. at some point people need to just live with their decisions.

they keep voting for these people then they get what they deserve. perhaps i wouldn't be so mean about it, but it's enough to say that this is what you voted for so that must be what you wanted. maybe it's enough to get people to fucking pay attention because they obviously are not now. i know my brother who is not a senior was spouting off about how he could do better with his money than the government can. he apparently wants privatization of social security.... even after the economic meltdown!! wtf! they don't seem to understand the ramifications of what they are advocating. he will when he is a senior in 25 years (or 30 if they change it). my dad's girlfriend and her sister are fretting what will happen to their medicare and social security. they have fixed incomes and my dad's girlfriend spends her days going to appointments and getting chemo and recovering from it.

[bobbolink]

110. "They". "US and THEM". and you count people like ME in the Thems.

Have fun berating all of us who are poor, saying that we deserve what we get, and ignore the fact that for a lot of years (in my case, all my adult life!) I have been on YOUR SIDE.


But you need to look down other us, so have fun. Knock yourself out.

Just don't turn around a wonder why we are tired of getting the blame, and decide voting isn't worth the effort.

[Sirveri]

74. Too bad your meme is wrong. COLA isn't voted on, it's tied to changes in CPI-W.

CPI-W fell in '09 because the price of oil went from a high of $200+/bbl to ~$60/bbl. There's a further rule that in order to get a COLA increase the next year CPI-W must be higher than it was 2 years prior. CPI-W in Sep 2008 was 214.935, in Sep 2009 was 211.322, in Sep 2010 was 214.306. Because they use the third quarter (Jul-Sep), and ALL of those months follow a similar pattern to September (they're more extreme), there is no COLA.

There was ZERO voting involved in this.
http://www.ssa.gov/cola/2011/factsheet.htm
http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpid1011.pdf

[tsuki]

97. That is far to complicated for them. They prefer to blame the

Kenyan born Muslim Obama. I tried to explain HCA & Solantis. I did not even ask them to vote for Sink, just not to vote for Scott. 70% of my county voted for Scott. I banged on doors, passed out flyers, did everything I could.

Try to explain why they will not be allowed the 19% property tax reduction. They are homesteaded, and the yearly increase in property tax is capped at 3%. They are paying taxes that are less than the value of the home. They will not be eligible.

I am tired of trying to explain and being met with empty eyes.

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. Your Southern senators at work

The antebellum south will rise again off the backs of their new slaves

[old mark]

8. Graham was also talking about stoping the funding for "Obamacare"

and related GOP grumbling. They are going to make a big splash, but not much will get done. They are trying to pile up points for 2012.

mark

[plain1]

9. No more trickle uP tax cuts

Senator Graham needs to look out for the interests of ALL his constituents, rich and otherwise.

[newspeak]

28. I'd say the wealthy have had a bloated holiday way too long

With Little Boots having one of the worst job creation records, while giving his piggy friends lucrative contracts and cutting their taxes. Who do you think gains the most from taxes the wealthy or the poor? You haven't been paying attention where the money flows and why we start wars. Do you think the average american benefits from those resource giveaways? And then the corporate fellating machine tells their captive audience how poorly the corporations are treated, how poorly the wealthy are treated--it's all the fault of those welfare queens and those poor people-who are poor because God did not grace them with riches. But, most of the poor people I've met want to work, and some work more than one job just to make sure their children can survive. It's called the working poor.

Trickle down is a con game--of course, a lot of that money gets trickled over-over to the Caymans, to Dubai--but the little people barely get trickled on. And, taxing a poor man is like squeezing blood from a turnip. One hundred dollars could be life or death to some families, but to the wealthy it's about one second of their time.

It's amazing that taxes on the wealthy were once at 94%, then at 66%--but they had to demand all of the toys. So, now we have a rich and non-rich gap that hasn't been seen since the last great depression.

[Samantha]

10. He is insisting the retirement age be raised and benefits cut

for those 55 and under.

South Carolina, recall Senator Graham. He is NOT WORKING FOR YOU. He did make it clear that before he votes to raise the debt ceiling, he must see evidence of entitlement cuts on the table. Hardball tactics require harder-ball responses.

Sam

[eleny]

11. Social Security is at the top of his list

[DCKit]

12. If they lose the old, white vote, what is left for the (R)s?

Granted, it's a group that can generally be counted on to vote against their own best interests, but if they ever realize what's really going on, the Republics are screwn.

[Nostradammit]

18. Electronic voting machines.

That's really all they need.

[safeinOhio]

13. That'd be

Flatten the middle class
and
Fatten the rich.


we get it

[shanti]

102. $60,000 a year

and only a hs education, they weren't going for that.

[madrchsod]

15. we have one person to blame for this thing---president obama

if it was`t for our democratic president this thing would not have a forum to spread the seeds of destruction of our country...

[bobbolink]

57. He is doing what Raygun and the Bushes couldn't do.

:nuke:

I hope he enjoys walking over the bodies left in his wake.

[Sirveri]

76. Raygun took the rate to a flat 28% in 1988 for everyone over 29750 (joint file)

They want to go back to that, and they want to go back to the gilded age. They want worker slaves, people who they can toss at other countries because they're nothing more than numbers. They want to run the country like a video game, where all the little people are just anonymous little pixels running around on a monitor, nothing more than math and stats.

[bobbolink]

108. We all know that. Too bad we can't now honestly look at what Obama is doing.

[MattBaggins]

16. So do they really think we are that stupid?

As they hew and haw; screaming and ranting about how SS needs to be cut, do they think we don't realize that they are blowing smoke up our asses.

They have no intention of lowering the SS taxes collected if they lower the payouts. They are going to steal our money right out of our pockets to give to their buddies and convince the majority of American retards that it needs to be done.

They are trying to steal our money and do it with a straight face.

[TheMadMonk]

62. They K.N.O.W. that collectively the people ARE that stupid.

They have already lowered the SS taxes collected.

When the time comes for them to go back up, the Republican meme will be "The Democrats are raising your taxes."

And what do the Democrats have to offer "We are putting your taxes back up, because..."

Do you think the average 'Merkin voter will hear a fucking thing AFTER the comma.

They will hear "taxes are going up" and start screeching. And the Democratic party (if their recent record is indicative) will probably respond with: "Oh fuck, vote hemorage! Quick, here, have another 12 months. And another 1%."


No polititian would vote directly for the abolishion of SS. However, any number could be convinced to extend the tax holiday a little longer, and probably to expand it.

[shanti]

104. you know

that's what frightens me the most, the ignorance of the u.s. populace. :scared:

[ejpoeta]

86. we ARE that stupid.... at christmas my brother was going on and on about how

he could do better with his money than the government could. he seems to want privatization. even after what just happened. i swear, brainwashed! or braindead! and my sister was pissed about the freeze in pay for federal workers. which she and her husband are. but i bet she is all for cutting wages for state workers. it's like they live in contradictionland. where two completely opposite things can live together without even a hint of irony.

[shanti]

105. this:

it's like they live in contradictionland. where two completely opposite things can live together without even a hint of irony.

kind of like obama, huh?

[jtown1123]

93. There will be such a huge backlash against this if it passes that the 2010

midterm elections will look like childs play. These heartless fucks are all screwed if they cuts SS.

[shanti]

103. They are trying to steal our money and do it with a straight face

with the ultimate betrayal, a democratic president. pretty ballsy, if you ask me. :(

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

17. "Flattened" is the perfect descriptor.

[walldude]

19. "We need to make sure ALL our Democrats know right now

that ANY tax cuts for the rich will be punished with a primary challenge from the LEFT!"

Good luck with that. Have you looked around here lately? The rich got to keep their tax cuts and a good portion of DU was thrilled about it.

[Lorien]

20. Our real rulers are happy with Obama and won't allow a primary challenger

we'll have to either write in a candidate or vote third party.

[StreetKnowledge]

64. And how do you get millions of the sheep to back this third party?

Forget about it for a long time. At least until the US defaults and civil unrest in quantities not seen since the civil war and violent crime rates comparable to Brazil or South Africa are a fact of everyday life.

[shanti]

106. bingo

grass roots level.

[butterfly77]

21. POS...

[Ichingcarpenter]

22. A popular Southern Senator

That has credence for Southerners and the REpuglican Party.

That's why he's leading the call.

[butterfly77]

23. I was watching this POS..

about an hour ago and he said there will be no yes vote on the debt ceiling unless they get what they want on SS among other things..

[Ichingcarpenter]

24. I Guess Sen. Ben Nelson will be the first to have a rebuttal

Being one of the only southern senator..... oh yes ..... there is one more
where is she?

[butterfly77]

25. Are you talking about...

blanche?

[GoCubsGo]

54. He's not as popular as you think.

At least, not in his own state. The repugs here are ready to give him the boot for being "too liberal". His own party censured him last year for working with the Democrats on one or two issues.

[pacalo]

27. Call your immoral bill what it is, Lindsey: Taking from the poor to give to the rich.

[JI7]

29. Considering Older people are most likely to support Republicans

i don't know why he would say this.

republicans usually just leave things in a mess for the younger generations to deal wih.

[WinkyDink]

34. Not the Boomers.

[Ikonoklast]

30. So, a Republican Senator advocates tax cuts for the rich, you want to primary Democrats?

The leap of pretzel logic here is astounding.

[sam sarrha]

31. BU$H43 TAX CUT IS 1/2 TRILLION DOLLAR$ WORTH OF WELFARE TO THE RICHEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.!!>LINK>

the top 1% has 42.7 of Americas Financial wealth, the next 19& has 50.3%, and the Bottom 80% only has 7% of America's financial wealth.

THE TOP 1% HOLDS 6 TIMES THE FINANCIAL WEALTH OF THE BOTTOM 80%.. THE TOP 20% HOLDS 93% OF AMERICAS FINANCIAL WEALTH... and this is never considered as the cause of the lingering Recession.. there is just no money left for the 80% under class to live on...!!!

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

[Bolo Boffin]

32. And he also wants permanent U.S. bases built in Afghanistan

Priorities.

[truedelphi]

33. Personally, our household is pulling the plug on our TV.

The news media and their talking heads, with the continuous drone of how the Baby Boomers are "demanding" Social Security - that will no longer be playing in our household.

No longer will we have to look at the sorry angry puss of people like Graham.

The money we save will go to a new computer, which will be able to stream the few TV shows we feel are worthwhile. And I think that NetFlix will get a work out.

[WinkyDink]

35. Is "not owning a TV" the new "ostrich head"?

[truedelphi]

36. Well for one thing, the

Internet provides a lot more sensible content with very decent commentary by average citizens, than any of the TV shows with their Talking Heads.

And the few decent commentary shows, like Maddow or Olbermann, you can always get streaming vids of them.

I already know what the media says in almost any context. From the "We will all die if we don't have Iraq II" to "BP is doing a good job there, hardly any oil to see"... If you describe the situation, I already know how it will be spun on ABC, NBC or CBS.

[ooglymoogly]

40. One does not need a TeeVee to stay informed

one only needs a tv to stay ill informed.

A computer connected to the internet is what is called for to stay informed.

[barbtries]

49. hell no.

DU, mudflats, all the news networks, local papers, all online. alternet, daily kos, media matters, the list goes on and on and on. tv is actually a very poor source for news.

[Jamastiene]

61. No, "not owning a TV" in this day and age is akin

to being ahead of the curve. They might not quit making TV sets any time soon, but with everything becoming more integrated with the internet, many people are just using their computers to watch TV shows they want to watch and bypassing the bullshit 24/7/365 right wing spin machine that is MSM. There is real news out there. Why limit oneself to the propaganda that is TV news?

[The Wizard]

68. Remember what the TVs looked like

in the movie "1984."
I believe they were big flat screens like the ones that have become affordable because of Slave labor.
Big Brother is not really watching, just controlling thought.

[truedelphi]

98. Plus everywhere I have lived over the last twenty years

Has required Cable TV.

So I am paying about fifty bucks a month to be fed this garbage. The few things I like, I can get much more cheaply by watching over the internet, or waiting a year and getting the show on DVD.

[Doctor_J]

70. No, and continuing to watch right-wing propaganda and do nothing about it

is the new "good German". As long as you and the rest of the hate radio/cable "news" addicts continue to tune in and repost the swill without ever doing anything to change it, are a large part of the problem.

[Patchuli]

37. "Demanding?" Damn straight we are demanding

what we've paid for!!! Our SS and Medicare has NOTHING to do with the general fund! I've personally been paying into those funds since I was 16 and I am now 40 years older! They are absolutely correct that we are demanding what is OURS!

Where do these sanctimonious rich pompous asses like that weak-chinned whiner Graham get the hell off thinking they're paying us money that is not ours??????? It is not welfare...it's been paid for! That douchebag Reagan took EXTRA money from our paychecks to make sure that it would be there and now that we have taken care of their generation, it is our turn.

Geez, if I'd know that we were going to have to fight for our own SS, I might have left the country years ago.

[truedelphi]

60. I almost never watch ABC as they were big promoters of the

"Swift Boaters" who were attacking John Kerry for the way he served in Vietnam.

But on Saturday they had this little clip about the big effect the Baby Boomers had on society. It wasn't too obnoxious, so out of curiosity I watched it. Well, when they got to the end segment, my dander got raised in a hurry - as the following was the premise behind the clip:

"Boomers are a demanding group and whatever they 'want' they get. And now the Boomers 'want' and 'are planning on demanding' Social Security. Regardless of the cost to our deficit."

No mention of the fact that for anyone paying into Social Security, it was a legal requirement. Only way you could avoid paying into Social Security was to either take a job off the grid and be paid cash, or to not ever work.

I have mentioned a dozen times here on DU about how the RW twenty something barristas at the local coffee shop used to be against Social Security, as they had been told it was welfare for the seniors. When I let them know that most of the time I worked, I had to pay into the system over 15 percent of my income, they were taken aback. Now they have started paying attention to their paycheck, and they see that it is a program paid for by employers and by the employees.

[Paper Roses]

87. Ditto n/t

[shanti]

107. got that right!

:thumbsup:

[tsuki]

43. Go to Roku.com. I pulled the pug on our satellite, or rather Motorola did.

We now receive ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW, MyNetwork, ThisTV and 4 PBS stations free with a booster aeriel. With Roku, for $10 a month, we get StarzPlay and Netflix. Also, for free, Pandora Music, and many podcasts. It is more TV than we need, but the music channels are great (also Husband gets to watch Rachel Maddow on podcasts, and I get Amy Goodman, Democracy Now).

[barbtries]

48. i've been without a tv for over 3 years.

netflix is wonderful. hulu too. rachel maddow i watch online while getting ready for work. etc. i don't miss it.

[shanti]

100. you know what?

i'm thinking of doing that myself, pulling the plug on dish. i can use my laptop for anything else. (wishing i was off the grid!)

[Jakes Progress]

38. And those seniors will cheer him and re-elect him over and over.

Sounds bad, but I'm a senior. I hang out with other left-wing nut seniors like myself. But as a whole, the ones around here can't get enough of sanctimonious hypocrisy from people like graham.

[ooglymoogly]

42. Seniors are the biggest and fastest growing voting demographic in the country. nt

[ooglymoogly]

39. Its all good...Obama now has the cover to make his catfood

commission recommendations into law and rob SS for all its worth to pay for the tax cuts for all the new found buddies he's been on his knees for; for the last to years.

[sallyseven]

47. The debt commission has not passed

Your just trying to start trouble.

[ooglymoogly]

52. Fer sher Pollyanna.

Its not trying to make trouble; it is trying to wake folks up to what is actually happening to their SS; so they will get out and stop the mayhem. Half a trillion already stolen from SS to pay for bogus wealthcare. Recommendations by Boles and Skinner already out in MSM to cut SS further.


http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/final-catfood-commission-report-nauseatingly-titled-moment-truth-7584

No COLA for two years with prices skyrocketing.


2%cut in contributions to fund; further weakening SS.

Take off the rose colored glasses and smell the seniors dying in the streets from cold and starvation. On second thought; taking off the rose colored glasses will not help the hopelessly self blinded.

[Skittles]

79. those folk need extreme intervention, ooglymoogly

they just do NOT.FUCKING.GET.IT.

[Marr]

44. Remember all the apologists who said Social Security cuts could never happen,

because it's just so politically toxic? Remember them saying how Obama's Debt Commission was just political theater?

Well, suddenly Social Security cuts + new tax cuts for the rich is the new mainstream discussion. Now Obama has room to "compromise" by considering the recommendations of his commission, but only making cuts to Social Security.

[PA Democrat]

45. As if income taxes are the only taxes the poor and middle class pay.

This year our property taxes are going up because our school district is facing a budget shortfall due to less state funding. With gas prices on the rise again, we are paying a higher percentage of our income in gasoline taxes, and the state is talking about raising the state gas tax rate.

Then there is the cost of all of the other services provided by government that are being increased due to shortfalls in local and state governments. The PA Turnpike has raised tolls by 10%. The Pittsburgh Port Authority has raised bus and trolley fares by about 15% while drastically cutting routes. We have seen increases of 5 to 10% in college tuition for our oldest child evey year for the past 3 and I expect next year to be even worse.

In the meantime, the poor and middle class will continue to pay social security and medicare taxes on every dime they make, while the people who make their money off of "investments" pay nothing into either. Our state has a 6% sales tax that impacts the poor and middle class disproportionately. The state's income tax is a flat rate, but local governments tax only wages.

Lindsay can kiss my over-taxed, over-burdened middle class ass.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

50. do you have a link or video or anything? Would be very helpful

thanks.

[sarcasmo]

51. Banana Republic.

[SOS]

92. Already there

Check out the GINI index.
Every country with a score below 45 has more equitable income distribution than the US.
Who knows, maybe someday we will reach the equitable distribution of Laos and Malawi.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2172.html

[Uben]

58. It's all a game to them..........

......and Obama knows how to play. He will win, they will lose. They have really already lost. What you are seeing is what they were given....the appearance of resistance to reinforce their lobbyist positions. You can see defeat in their eyes. Watch and see.

[liberation]

66. LOL

2010 called, their Nov elections say "what's up?" The whole n-dimensional chess grandmaster is sooooo 2009

[StreetKnowledge]

63. That Default is inevitable, and SS will be history by then.

Get used to it. A primary challenge won't happen because the M$M will rip a challenger to bits for daring to challenge the status quo.

Things won't change in the United States until vast civil unrest and massive amounts of violence force changes.

[Doctor_J]

69. Do you have any plans to do anything about this?

Something that might actually make a difference? Change the dialog? Make the pigs at the trough pay dearly for their gluttony?

Or is this just more whining?

[jtown1123]

94. Yes! We need to pester the s*** out of everyone in Congress and the White House.

Call and send emails every day. Hell, we need to do something.

[Doctor_J]

99. OK, but that's one definition of insanity

doing the same thing over again and expecting different results.

[RedCloud]

71. Off with his usel;ess head!

[Odin2005]

72. And Obama and the Dems will bend right over and let them do it.

[QC]

75. Bingo. It's almost like there's some kind of strategery going on here,

isn't there?

[Skittles]

80. aw fuck yeah

it's what is giving them permission to start hollering loud and clear about their intentions

[pa28]

73. Obama has already directed Treasury to come up with tax proposal mirroring Simpson/Bowles.

This is a more important and far reaching story than potential Social Security cuts IMO.

Clearly, the President wants to get in front of Republicans on the issue and it looks like he already has. Unfortunately, they are much better at playing the brinksmanship game and will use his flexibility to move the bar.

The steady stream of oh so reasonable compromises from the President will be interpreted as weakness by Republicans. Not as a gesture to "get stuff done".

The result? Demands for a long coveted SS privatization scheme and a top tier rate reduction to 25% with only a limited or long delayed shift in capital gains tax to the ordinary income rate. In other words they'll seek to take the Simpson/Bowles tax model as a starting point and make it much more regressive.

It's shaping up like a naked grab and Obama will win big if he calls them out on it now. I also think he should have Bill Clinton stop by again to offer a little advice. President Clinton faced the same problem in the 90's, flexed some executive muscle and wound up with Newt Gingrich's head as well as a major political victory when Republicans were forced to fold.

[avaistheone1]

77. What are his constituents thinking?

They should can Lindsay Grahams ass.

[AsahinaKimi]

Seriously ...

Republicans are Disgusting Vile creatures.

[AsahinaKimi]

81. Seriously ...

Republicans are Disgusting Vile creatures.

[Major Hogwash]

82. The only thing that is going to be flattened is the Republican party!!

Hoover, Reagan, Bush all ran up large deficits tying to keep the rich happy.
It didn't work in Hoover's day, it didn't work during Ronnie Raygun's time in office, and we are still feeling the effects from Bush.

[MrMickeysMom]

88. Hey, and it's January!

The next monetary crisis would already rolling to a fever pitch, stealing from FICA with the inevitable about to happen... So, what's not to love about this tax-flattening tactic, huh?

A flat earth deserves no less from these guys!

Wow... I wish Lindsay would come into our neighborhood for an autograph!

[orbitalman]

89. Put this SOB out of his misery. n/t

[Pholus]

90. So, what is the "bipartisan" response to this?

29% top rate, smaller social security and medicare cuts?

And a ton of apologists telling us to grow up because this was the best deal we could get.

[Optimistic]

91. Say goodbye to SS and Medicare

When the Tea party gains 2/3 majority of both the House and Senate and President palin takes office the very 1st thing done on her 1st day in office will be the elimination of SS and Medicare, as she will tell poor and older Americans that cannot afford to live
"It Is Your Fault you are not a Billionaire so F*** You"

[Javaman]

96. As bad as we are now, I fear what we will be like 5 years from now.

I still have roughly 20 years till I "retire". But in reality, I honestly believe, I will never ever "retire" and, as I have stated before, will die at my desk.