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Mon Jan-03-11 02:05 AM
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Quote of the Day: Stephen Colbert on being a christian nation |
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Mon Jan-03-11 02:10 AM
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1. I find it fascinating how Jon Stewart & Colbert can absolutely |
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put their finger on the issues of the day in a way that is absoluteley undeniable. However, Colbert is fascinating in that the RW doesn't get that he is skewering them. They are the invaluable Mark Twains of our day.
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Mon Jan-03-11 06:42 PM
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26. I think it's more that they just don't care. |
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And why would they? He's an actor on Comedy Central. It ain't exactly skewering if 1) the neocons aren't watching him and 2) wouldn't care anyways.
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Mon Jan-03-11 06:57 PM
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Colbert has a lot of conservative watchers, who honestly DO NOT GET that it is a farce. Really.
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Mon Jan-03-11 08:36 PM
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38. sarcasm can not be comprehended by small minds |
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Mon Jan-03-11 10:07 PM
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39. Oh, they're watching. They're just idiots. |
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Many of them truly believe that he's on their side. They're just that stupid. Seriously.
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Mon Jan-03-11 11:16 PM
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43. newtothegame, if you don't think it's skewering you need to watch the |
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youtube of Colbert SKEWERING President Bush to his face at what I believe was a National Press Club Meeting.
I was surprised that the Secret Service didn't drag him off the stage. It was so funny and deliciously accurate that I about busted a gut.
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Tue Jan-04-11 12:49 AM
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47. Remember when Cindy Sheehan was down in Texas |
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Edited on Tue Jan-04-11 12:50 AM by GETPLANING
protesting the Iraq war outside George Bush's property? Remember what the conservative counter-protesters were taunting her with?
"We don't care, We don't care!"
That's the defining message of conservatism in America today. They really don't care.
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Tue Jan-04-11 01:43 AM
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thinking that same thing at the time - I forgot all about that. Hard times.
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Mon Jan-03-11 02:14 AM
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2. One of my favorite Colbert quotes: |
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Jerry Falwell: (footage of asswipe on TV) Blow them all away in the name of the lord. Colbert: This just in, Jesus has quit.
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Mon Jan-03-11 02:40 AM
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4. That's funny! He's so good! nt |
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Mon Jan-03-11 02:32 AM
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"He makes a damn good point"
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Mon Jan-03-11 04:50 AM
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He doesn't go after churches or Christians - just the RW meme of being a "Christian Nation". There are many churches and millions of Christians trying to do the right thing.
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Mon Jan-03-11 05:09 PM
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I would "K&Highly-R" your post. Thank you!
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Mon Jan-03-11 06:41 PM
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25. Of course not. He has no problem with christianity. |
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Now, Dominionist theocracy, on the other hand, tends to get his back up.
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Mon Jan-03-11 10:02 AM
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6. I see people putting that on their Facebook status and gettting positive responses K&R nt |
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Mon Jan-03-11 04:51 PM
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Mon Jan-03-11 06:36 PM
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and it got 'likes' but no comments.
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Mon Jan-03-11 03:59 PM
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7. behavior of so called religious have turned me off to any xtain church |
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none of them practice Christ like principles or behaviors for example - you can not be against abortion and pro war and pro not helping those with disabilities or the soldiers returning home sick and ill or the unemployed, old, seniors, healthcare - they are all hypocrites in my book
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Mon Jan-03-11 05:05 PM
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15. Pretty Broad Brush you paint with |
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Mon Jan-03-11 05:15 PM
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There are actually many Christian churches who are NOT against abortion, are NOT pro-war, and are very pro "helping those with disabilities or the soldiers returning home sick and ill or the unemployed, old, seniors, healthcare". Many are NOT anti-LGBT, as well.
Please do not lump all Christians into an incorrect pre-conceived notion.
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Mon Jan-03-11 10:20 PM
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41. Can you give us some examples? |
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Mon Jan-03-11 11:51 PM
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45. Where would you like to start? |
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the church I belong to, the Episcopal Church, has many gay and women clergy, and the Presiding Bishop is a woman. The church takes many progressive stands on social issues.
Many mainline denominations are liberal, there are more liberal Christians in numbers than conservatives.
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Tue Jan-04-11 01:41 AM
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48. Check these churches out! |
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The United Church of Christ and the United Methodist Church pride themselves on loving and welcoming everyone and are highly active in serving the poor, immigrants, and those who are undertrod and unloved and needful in any way.
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Tue Jan-04-11 07:24 AM
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52. Post #45 & 48 said it pretty well. |
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My own church is United Methodist. My local church congregation is a "reconciling congregation", meaning we have made a public statement that we welcome all to our family, and one need not hide who s/he is.
Our Bishop was the president of the UM Bishops association in 2002, and asked for a meeting with President Bush to voice the church's opposition to invading Iraq. He was turned down.
We are very much involved in helping the people in need. I am actually the chair of our local "Missions and Outreach" committee. We have other committees which work on other such issues as well.
We have UMCOR - United Methodist Committee On Relief - with missionaries in Haiti and other countries around the world.
The UM church was a leader in women's rights as well, having full ordination for women since 1957.
Oh - and how about the Episcopal church with full rights of the LGBT community, including an openly gay Bishop?
I think maybe you need to open your mind a little, and leave your own prejudices behind.
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Mon Jan-03-11 04:31 PM
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8. Colbert: I don't think Jesus said "If you don't work, you don't eat" ... eom |
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Mon Jan-03-11 05:18 PM
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And I doubt very much that He asked for proof of legitimate residency before He healed anyone.
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Mon Jan-03-11 08:02 PM
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Mon Jan-03-11 04:36 PM
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9. I'll put an "Amen!" on that! |
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Mon Jan-03-11 04:39 PM
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10. The closer I read it, the truer it seems. I mean it is absolutely true... |
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Considering the premise, "if this is a Christian nation..." the forced choice that follows makes sense. Great!
--imm
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Mon Jan-03-11 04:59 PM
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12. America doesn't help the poor? By what measure? |
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http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1258In fiscal year 2010, the federal government is projected to spend $3.6 trillion, amounting to 24 percent of the nation’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
Three health insurance programs — Medicare, Medicaid, and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) — will together account for 21 percent of the budget in 2010, or $753 billion. Nearly two-thirds of this amount, or $468 billion, will go to Medicare, which provides health coverage to around 46 million people who are over the age of 65 or have disabilities. The remainder of this category ($285 billion) funds Medicaid and CHIP, which in a typical month in 2010 will provide health care or long-term care to about 64 million low-income children, parents, elderly people, and people with disabilities. Both Medicaid and CHIP require matching payments from the states.
Safety net programs: About 14 percent of the federal budget in 2010, or $482 billion, will support programs that provide aid (other than health insurance or Social Security benefits) to individuals and families facing hardship.
These programs include: the refundable portion of the earned-income and child tax credits, which assist low- and moderate-income working families through the tax code; programs that provide cash payments to eligible individuals or households, including Supplemental Security Income for the elderly or disabled poor and unemployment insurance; various forms of in-kind assistance for low-income families and individuals, including food stamps, school meals, low-income housing assistance, child-care assistance, and assistance in meeting home energy bills; and various other programs such as those that aid abused and neglected children.
A Center analysis shows that such programs kept approximately 15 million Americans out of poverty in 2005 and reduced the depth of poverty for another 29 million people. (Such programs likely kept even more Americans out of poverty since the recession began. For example, seven provisions of the Recovery Act enacted in February 2009 kept more than 6 million additional people out of poverty in 2009, according to a Center analysis.)$285 billion + $482 billion = $767 billion. How much money has to be spent helping low income families before we're considered to be "helping the poor"?
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Mon Jan-03-11 05:09 PM
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17. I'm just commenting on the medicare payments, but... |
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... here's the deal with that.
First, almost all medicade is administered by private insurance companies which means we are paying for a middle man to do nothing. And don't go to the, but private companies are more efficient BS argument. If it were true then the other nations that have government administered health care would do less for more money. We have an privately administered system and we do less with much more money.
Second, as long as the system is mired in the inefficiencies of the private companies, the costs will continue to rise because the root issues have not been dealth with.
Just my 2 cents as a clinic adminsitrator.
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Mon Jan-03-11 05:12 PM
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18. I don't consider Medicare to be a social program in the traditional sense |
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Edited on Mon Jan-03-11 05:18 PM by Rage for Order
Because taxes are deducted from our paychecks specifically for Medicare; same with Social Security. I do consider Medicaid to be a social program though.
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Mon Jan-03-11 08:09 PM
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36. Health care is a positive for the nation ... Bush/Obama wars $2 billion a week --? |
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Edited on Mon Jan-03-11 08:10 PM by defendandprotect
War and weapons making/selling is a negative for our nation and the planet!
Great scams/frauds pulled on Medicare are by private H/C industry!!
And especially by Big Pharma -- everyone of the companies involved in defrauding Medicare!!
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Mon Jan-03-11 08:00 PM
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33. We could also look at the child poverty rate in the US, the only |
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industrialized nation over 20%....and so on. Sweden Norway, Finland are all well under 5%. With austerity cut backs many countries have fallen a great deal like France to 7% and a few other countries have fallen to as bad as the mid teens, still no competition for us.
We have improved somewhat with things like the EIC (though remember extending expanded version is still temporary and part of the tax cut deal) There were many boosts to fighting poverty in stimulus bill that are ending now too. But we are better than we use to be. It use to be over 25% of our children in poverty
Medicare of course can't be counted as money helping the poor since it is not income dependent, is paid for and goes to high and low income people alike.
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Mon Jan-03-11 08:06 PM
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35. By this measure ... $1 BILLION a day simply for interest on the debt -- !! |
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And billions and trillions to bail out corrupt and criminal capitalists!!
WHILE, government policies are continuing to create more impoverished Americans --
and more homeless Americans -- and more uninsured Americans!!
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Mon Jan-03-11 05:01 PM
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Mon Jan-03-11 05:03 PM
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14. The political Christians, they reject all that Jesus said |
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and replace it with anti gay shit and a love of money.
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Mon Jan-03-11 06:36 PM
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24. I couldn't have said that better myself. |
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Every political Christian I was brought up around in Southern Indiana spewed anti gay propaganda in the church, and had a love of money I still to this day I still can't wrap my mind around.
Political Christians, I find it hard to believe you can be both words in that phrase today.
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Mon Jan-03-11 06:35 PM
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23. AMEN BROTHER STEPHEN!! |
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I wonder, if we will ever see the beckster on his fine show?
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Mon Jan-03-11 06:44 PM
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27. THAT kind of honesty would serve ALL of us better than the lying shit that's goin' on now. nt |
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Mon Jan-03-11 06:46 PM
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28. I cannot say how thrilled I am about this statement. About time |
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someone said it that clearly.
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Edited on Mon Jan-03-11 07:21 PM by westerebus
And jesus said: when I was naked, you clothed me; when I was hungry, you fed me; when I was thirsty, you gave me drink; when I was cold, you gave me shelter from the storm.
They replied: But, Rabbi we have never met.
At this jesus said: Hear me for what you have done to the least of your brothers, you have done to me.
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Mon Jan-03-11 11:41 PM
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44. You left out a significant part |
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And jesus said: when I was naked, you clothed me; when I was hungry, you fed me; when I was thirsty, you gave me drink; when I was cold, you gave me shelter from the storm.
Then you sent me the bill. Because no one ever gets something for nothing -- unless you are a corporation
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Mon Jan-03-11 07:59 PM
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32. As much as I like Colbert and agree with this quote .... supporting male-supremacist religion.... |
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isn't something that will work for democracy -- or for any of us!
As we've seen from the last 2,000 years or so!!
Patriarchy and violence are mirror images of one another --
time for change!
Patriarchy is a bird with one wing --
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Tue Jan-04-11 02:43 AM
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51. WTF? Speak so we may know you -- !! |
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Mon Jan-03-11 10:07 PM
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40. Our country is full of people who are claiming to be followers of Jesus |
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while at the same time trying to follow the teachings of Ayn Rand. And almost nobody gets the contradiction.
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Mon Jan-03-11 11:53 PM
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46. Stephen is a good man. n/t |
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Tue Jan-04-11 02:22 AM
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50. Like me Da used to say "There are so many Christians |
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here...I must be in hell."
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