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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 08:51 AM
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Bill Kristol: "Argument against Obamacare is gov't will tell you if you have to have a living will"
January 02, 2011 09:20 PM
Kristol: The More Government Takes Over Health Care the More Rationing There Will Be

By Heather

As our friends at Media pointed out, Bill Kristol was still fear mongering about government health care rationing on Fox News Sunday this weekend.

WALLACE: Let's go to the substance of this before we get back to the regulation question, Bill, because there is, the fact -- as I suspect, a number of us have living wills, do not resuscitate things. And "The Wall Street Journal" editorial, as you say, said the problem wasn't the policy, it was the process, the idea of being forced to drop something out of the law and then going around Congress and doing it through a regulation.

But there was an interesting article I read yesterday that pointed out states like Arizona and Indiana are already in their state Medicaid, beginning to ration care and saying, you know, we're just not going to pay for transplants or extraordinary measures because we can't afford to do it. So, in that sense, there is already rationing going on, a lot more serious than this end-of-life counseling.

KRISTOL: And the more government takes over health care, the more government rationing there will be, and the more the government will tell you whether you have to have a living will or whether you have to discuss it with your doctor every year, or every five years. And that is this argument against Obamacare.

The point about this regulation, it was buried in the thousand of pages of regulations. Do we really want our health care system run by people at HHS, writing ten thousands of pages of regulations based on this incredibly complex Obamacare bill, or do we want a system in which people can work this out with their own doctors? I think it's a very good issue for Republicans to have the oversight hearings on, along with many, many other regulatory issues where Republicans should look a look at what the Obama administration is doing.

As Media Matters noted in their article, there is plenty of rationing going on, but it's the insurance companies that are doing it.

Chris Wallace pointed to Arizona as an example of governments rationing their health care, but he didn't bother to mention how the state got there as this article explains.


http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/kristol-more-government-takes-over-health-ca
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:08 AM
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1. Arizona death panel..........the GOP wants the states to decide....
Edited on Tue Jan-04-11 09:09 AM by Historic NY
if you don't fund it does it really exist?
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:39 AM
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2. I Kristol stupid or is he stupid?
Don't you make up a living will with your doctor? I did and than it is in my health record until I chose to change it. Does Kristol say the Health Care Bill makes you go to a lawyer for a living will?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 10:34 AM
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6. isn't the 25th amendment sort of like the living will of government.?
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:44 AM
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3. Cheney
I bet if Cheney needs a heart transplant he'll get one. And I believe his health insurance is funded by federal dollars and thus the tax payer.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:56 AM
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4. People like Kristol who try to scare people by saying that the government
will make decisions about your health care neglect to point out that the insurance companies are making those decisions right now on a for profit basis.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:58 AM
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5. more government rationing is caused by people like Kristol
people that want to give giant tax breaks to rich and to funnel government money to industry and graft. The only reason there will be rationing in the health care law is that Republicans will under fund it to make sure it happens. So fuck you you heartless bastard Bill Kristol.
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