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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 06:47 AM
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Workers jump to their deaths as fire engulfs factory making clothes for Gap


Smoke rises from the clothing factory, where two of the emergency exits were said to have been closed


Workers jump to their deaths as fire engulfs factory making clothes for Gap
Saad Hammadi in Dhaka and Matthew Taylor
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 14 December 2010 20.51 GMT

Dozens of workers jumped to their deaths and more than 100 were injured when a fire swept through a Bangladeshi factory that makes clothes for high street retailer Gap today.

Witnesses said the blaze – at the factory just outside Dhaka – engulfed the multistorey building, forcing some of those trapped inside to leap from the windows. The fire comes after repeated warnings about fire safety at factories making clothes for western retailers.

Authorities said that the fire initially broke out on the building's 10th floor, where trousers were stored for shipment, and then spread up to the 11th floor where there was a canteen and a manufacturing facility. At least 27 people died in the blaze while one witness said that he saw 50 to 60 people jumping off the 10th floor to escape.

Abdur Rahim, who was injured, said most of the workers were having lunch when the fire broke out. "Heavy plumes of fire suffocated the area." He said two of the emergency exits were closed. Unable to walk down, many broke the windows to escape the fire and injured themselves.

Simon McRae, senior campaigns officer at the anti-poverty charity War on Want, said: "This latest tragedy in a factory owned by a firm which supplies UK stores underlines how workers risk their lives to make our clothes."
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:10 AM
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1. K&R
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:22 AM
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2. eerily similar to the Triangle Factory Fire *video story*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4j04-FeO3s

1911 - yes, a hundred years later and this happens in today's world

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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:34 AM
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7. spot on comparison...
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:35 AM
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8. Yes it does!!!
I remember stories about this from my Grandfather. Couldn't' remember the name of the Factory. Thank you for both. The name and memory of my grandfather.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:45 PM
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24. double thanks back atcha for the note and sharing re: your grandfather

must have been a dramatic event for people who knew of it or were there

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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:57 AM
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10. That's what I thought this was when I clicked it.
Edited on Wed Dec-15-10 07:58 AM by travelingtypist
An anniversary or something.

Watch the MSM not make the connection.

Eerie. And so sad.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:40 PM
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17. So sad that Big Business has learned nothing, except to run away from regulation.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 10:51 PM
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22. You beat me to it but that is exactly what came to mind
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:56 AM
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27. Yep. The Triangle shirtwaist fire was the first thing that came to my mind too
that tragedy paved the way for worker protections in America-the same protections that others do not enjoy because we want cheap crap and send jobs overseas to get it.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:24 AM
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3. I hope this helps mobilize the workers. K&R.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:28 AM
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4. Thank you and
got it book marked and in memory. I wonder how much they were making per hour or day. I heard Mr. Sanders say 23 cents an hour. And they think they are going to put money back in investment in America!!!! Yep, Mr. Sanders is right!!! They want us to work for two dollars a day. I feel for the families of this tragic fire. But this is going on in almost every Country in the World where they value profit over life. They are always scared of the next nuclear attack,or if wittle Justin Beiber will ever cut his locks, when the real plague is these super wealthy Billionaires who make all this loot at the expense of the workers. I wouldn't be surprised if all those workers were insured by the company and their families won't get a dime. Hell they do it here in GOOD OL AMERICA!!!!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:31 AM
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5. No, more like $3.22 a day. People will have to work 14 hour shifts. :-(. nt
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:39 AM
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9. Were you adding
in holiday pay????I can take the family on vacation to the back door with all that loot:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:32 AM
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6. K&R!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 08:12 AM
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11. And the free traders think we should compete with people working ...
under these conditions.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 08:24 AM
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12. k
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 08:32 AM
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13. triangle shirt factory


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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 10:04 AM
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15. From Wiki:
Rose Schneiderman, a prominent socialist and union activist, said in a speech at the memorial meeting held in the Metropolitan Opera House on April 2, 1911, to an audience largely made up of the members of the Women's Trade Union League, a group that had provided moral and financial support for the Uprising of 20,000:


I would be a traitor to these poor burned bodies if I came here to talk good fellowship. We have tried you good people of the public and we have found you wanting. The old Inquisition had its rack and its thumbscrews and its instruments of torture with iron teeth. We know what these things are today; the iron teeth are our necessities, the thumbscrews are the high-powered and swift machinery close to which we must work, and the rack is here in the firetrap structures that will destroy us the minute they catch on fire.

This is not the first time girls have been burned alive in the city. Every week I must learn of the untimely death of one of my sister workers. Every year thousands of us are maimed. The life of men and women is so cheap and property is so sacred. There are so many of us for one job it matters little if 146 of us are burned to death.

We have tried you citizens; we are trying you now, and you have a couple of dollars for the sorrowing mothers, brothers and sisters by way of a charity gift. But every time the workers come out in the only way they know to protest against conditions which are unbearable the strong hand of the law is allowed to press down heavily upon us.

Public officials have only words of warning to us — warning that we must be intensely peaceable, and they have the workhouse just back of all their warnings. The strong hand of the law beats us back, when we rise, into the conditions that make life unbearable.

I can't talk fellowship to you who are gathered here. Too much blood has been spilled. I know from my experience it is up to the working people to save themselves. The only way they can save themselves is by a strong working-class movement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 08:37 AM
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14. I wonder how many news organizations in the US will even mention this. (nt)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:32 PM
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16. Remember this the next time you go to buy a Gap sweatshirt or jeans, or
clothes at Baby Gap, Banana Republic or Old Navy (same empire), or go to purchase so-called Forest Stewardship Council (FSC)-certified lumber (also same empire). (The FSC is a total scam just like Gap's sweatshop 'reforms." The Fisher family--the scions of the Gap empire-- have been clear-cutting redwood forests, using toxic pesticides and driving endangered species to extinction, in a huge real estate/development scheme in northern California, and have furthermore used the FSC--a highly secretive, private entity, funded by the World Bank among others--to destroy the public's right to participate in such decisions.)

This terrible fire ain't the first horror of the Gap/Fisher family empire and it won't be the last. Be aware! Spread the word!

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Solutions:

Well, one solution is boycotting, but that's not enough. These mega-corporations have plenty of billions for propaganda and diversification, to ride it out. I think we need to go for pulling the corporate charters of every one of these multinational monsters, dismantling them and seizing their assets for the common good.

But first we have quite a bit of work to do to restore government "of, by and for" the People, and I recommend starting with the private corporate 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines that have been spread like a plague throughout the land. These machines--which contain programming code that neither we nor our secretaries of state are permitted to review, and that tabulate ALL of our votes, in every state, with virtually no audit/recount controls--are now controlled largely (80%) by one, far rightwing-connected corporation--ES&S, which just bought out Diebold.

I believe that this is the final control mechanism of the coup d'etat that we have suffered. It's not the only thing wrong with our political/government system, but it is the one that prevents us from even having a chance at serious reform.

Transparent vote counting is also so fundamental to democracy that, without it, we really don't have a democracy. We MUST remove private corporations from the position that they have taken between us and the PUBLIC counting of our votes. They have no right to be there--just as they have no other rights whatsoever except those that we, as a sovereign people, GIVE them, when we PERMIT them to do business in our country, through charters that WE grant and other business licenses that they must obtain from US.

'TRADE SECRET' voting machines are a bloody outrage! They are the worst corporate interference with our democracy that we have ever seen. They are an invisible hand producing unverified and unverifiable results that we have lost the right to obtain proof of. We don't KNOW what they are doing. We CAN'T know. We have been barred from knowing. But we can be damn sure--as I am damn sure--that the multinational corporations and war profiteers who are running things have USED that invisible power, not once but several times, and in ways that are not always obvious.

This IS the heart of the problem--corporate control of the most fundamental mechanism of democracy.

It is still feasible to get rid of these machines peacefully. There is NO federal law mandating them (yet). (This coup was accomplished by corruption--a $3.9 billion e-voting boondoggle from the Anthrax Congress.) Control of the choice of voting systems still resides at the state/local level, where ordinary people still have potential influence. It won't be easy. It needs to be a widespread citizen campaign in all local venues. But it CAN be done.

We most certainly need a REAL 'Boston Tea Party' in this country--not this pathetic 'Mad Hatter's Tea Party' mockery. We need to throw these goddamn voting machines 'into the harbor' (so to speak). If we don't, we may well see Sarah Palin as presidential idiot #2.

Just remember this: Latin America has far worse corpo-fascist media than we do. Yet they have managed to elect kick-ass leftist governments in Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Uruguay, Paraguay (!), Nicaragua and other countries. How? Honest, transparent elections. The People can win, against great obstacles, IF the votes are honestly counted. Grass roots efforts can be fruitful, IF the votes are counted in the PUBLIC VENUE. Latin Americans have done their homework on their election systems. The payoff is REAL representatives of the people. The most fundamental part of honest elections is counting the votes IN THE PUBLIC VENUE. We must restore this. We must!

And the Latin Americans didn't do all this by thinking small. They thought BIG--such as imagining a world in which U.S. multinational corporate monsters and war profiteers can no longer push them around--and ravage their people and their economies and their resources and democracy itself.

Think big! And think strategically! In what mechanism does our power as a People actually reside? Restore that mechanism and reform will start being possible again.

Until we restore proper public control over the mega-corporations that operate from our shores, there is nothing we can do about horrible events like this fire in Bangladesh. We can raise all the protest we want about it, and it will happen again, there and here. I'm not saying don't protest--God knows I've done so, often. I'm saying we need to think about the fundamental problem of our power vs U.S.-based corporations, and start somewhere to fundamentally alter that power situation--and where better than with our most fundamental right--our right to vote--which has been corporatized and removed from our control?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:42 PM
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18. How do you say "Triangle" in Bengali?
:cry:

Or "union"?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 01:48 PM
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19. Anyone who shops at GAP is responsible


Anyone who buys anything made in these kinds of conditions is responsible.

Why is it that Americans are outraged at the mega-corporations for turning us into wage slaves, yet for generations, people in other nations have been OUR wage slaves, and there is no similar outcry from the majority of Americans?

It's like our dirty little secret, or something we refuse to acknowledge because we like the "brand."

I will never get it. Are we better than these people? Do we deserve their sweat and blood sewn into garments cuz we're "Murikan n' Speshul?"

If we allow it for others - to make our lives "more complete" - we have no business complaining when we're the next wage slaves on the list.

We all owe it to these people to STOP BUYING CORPORATE CRAP made in situations like these.

But Americans love their sparkly, cheap made shit with the chichi BRAND. They never taught their kids to look for ethically made items, only to be slaves to BRAND.

Be the Cool Kid no matter who suffers...........


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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 10:49 PM
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21. It could happen in most any sweat shop
not just Gap.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 04:29 PM
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20. K&R
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 10:53 PM
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23. Triangle Shirtwaist, Cocoanut Grove, and on and on and on. n/t
PB
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:55 PM
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25. The Gap
Only went in once when I 'had to'....
Proud to say I would never go again...and never bought anything there.
Some people must be in style....matters not...need to impress, I guess.

Shit place...proven.
What a horrific tragedy....


peace~
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:59 PM
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26. fuck the Gap
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delightfulstar Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 05:29 AM
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28. I haven't shopped at a Gap in 10 years...
And this won't make me go running back to one. Very sad story, and my thoughts are with those families. What happened to fair wages and fair working conditions? That's one place where we really went wrong, by shipping those jobs overseas.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 07:51 AM
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29. These are the conditions that need to be crammed down peoples' collective throats
Slave labor,child labor,crap materials...that's why this crap is so cheap!
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