AldebTX
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:41 PM
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A friend today when introducing me to his conservative mother referred to me as a Progressive. I stopped him and told him that while I have progressive views that I consider myself a liberal.
His mom's response....THERE ARE NO LIBERALS LEFT IN AMERICA
Well there is one here.
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:44 PM
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:48 PM
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:50 PM
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madinmaryland
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Thu Jan-06-11 07:10 PM
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13. I thought you preferred GORN. |
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:50 PM
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3. Four! My preference as well. |
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:50 PM
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but here's what I like about the term progressive... there's no confusing it with the more international definition of liberal, or more specifically neoliberal, which means being a red-baiter and being pro-"free market" and pro-privatization
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:50 PM
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6. What's the difference between Liberal and Progressive? I forgot again |
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:55 PM
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8. Liberal has a distinct meaning in the vocabularly... |
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Progressive, on the other hand, sounds like a car salesman.
Self-avowed Liberal #5.
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:54 PM
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7. Me Too !!! - K & R !!! |
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:57 PM
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9. Me too. IMO, all Liberals are Progressive, but not all Progressives are Liberal. Some |
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Progressives are Centrist, perhaps more than there are Liberals, a few Progressives could be somewhat Right of Center, like classic Eisenhower style Conservatives. There are no Right Wing Progressives.
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Thu Jan-06-11 07:41 PM
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19. Funny, i see it the other way. I define myself as a progressive liberal, |
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to differentiate myself from the the centrist liberals - you know, like Lieberbam used to be before crossing over to the dark side.
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awoke_in_2003
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Thu Jan-06-11 11:42 PM
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24. Lieberman a liberal... |
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only in this country would he be accused of being such.
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patrice
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Thu Jan-06-11 06:59 PM
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10. I'm not sure that "the Left" and Liberal are identical, because Liberal is intrinsicly |
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Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 07:04 PM by patrice
inclusive and there are those on what is calling itself "the Left" that are not inclusive of authentic Conservativism. Authentic Conservatives, in order to be authentic must at least consider the possibility of conserving that which is authentically Liberal, whereas "the Right" operates on the principle of excluding all that is not "the Right", IMHO.
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Thu Jan-06-11 07:03 PM
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11. this'll sound childish but I like the word even more because of how they hate it. |
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the definition of 'liberal' is to me what everyone needs to be, since time is moving forward not backward :)
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patrice
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Thu Jan-06-11 07:08 PM
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12. That's not childish, because their dislike is a manifestation of defensive vulnerability to |
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the tactical differences between Liberals and the Right. Those tactical differences are strategically important and useful, so your appreciation of their fear is not childish.
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Thu Jan-06-11 07:13 PM
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14. I personnally prefer "progressive", but am in no way offended by "liberal" |
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Thu Jan-06-11 07:13 PM
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15. On the contrary, ALL of the liberals are left in America. |
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Thu Jan-06-11 07:14 PM
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Thu Jan-06-11 07:31 PM
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17. right wing band talkers have made "liberal" an insult. therefore, |
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Thu Jan-06-11 11:44 PM
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25. right wing talkers have made liberal an insult... |
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therefore, I prefer the term "liberal". Fuck those brain dead idiots.
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Thu Jan-06-11 07:33 PM
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18. I shed the progressive moniker too! |
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Proud Liberal Power Activate!
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Thu Jan-06-11 07:45 PM
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A Canadian liberal, no less.
Our Conservative party is about the same as your Democrats. Our Liberal party is way to the left, and the NDP are even futher left, and they are considered TOO far left for many here.
I really, really, feel sorry for you guys.
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Thu Jan-06-11 08:29 PM
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21. I think progressives are thoughtful liberals. I don't buy into the whole |
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liberal agenda - select the ones I support.
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Thu Jan-06-11 11:46 PM
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hmmm, where have i heard those words before? I don't know- probably from the same folks that talk about a "gay agenda". Shit, if we have an agenda, why haven't I received a playbook yet?
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Fri Jan-07-11 08:06 AM
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28. outa be "truth agenda" |
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reality agenda, any agenda but the jagoffs who want to spend the rest of the century fighting
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Thu Jan-06-11 10:34 PM
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22. Well, the last one to leave needs to bring the flag because the USA was founded by liberals. |
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Thu Jan-06-11 11:40 PM
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23. when I hear the word "progressive"... |
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I think new "democrat". I am another Texas liberal (in the rich heritage of Ann Richards and Molly Ivins)
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Fri Jan-07-11 04:44 AM
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to me Progressive seems much more radical than a Liberal. I don't object to Libral I just feel like Progressive is more hardcore ... I guess it's just the different way people look at things.
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Fri Jan-07-11 08:15 AM
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29. Progressives don't need to define where or how far on the Left we are |
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Liberals do thanks to the DLC.
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Fri Jan-07-11 08:21 AM
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30. Liberal closeupready checking in |
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