Is it possible we at DU show more respect toward Elizabeth Edwards?

[HardWorkingDem]

And end with the disrespectful posts about the things in life she probably would not have appreciated?

It's really strange - here we have a woman who was revered for her excellent qualities and even took the time occasionally post at DU and how do we repay her memory? By discussing one of the most private areas of her life that she probably would not have appreciated and would rather have left among the private.

So out of respect for her, how about fewer postings about her personal life and instead let's revere her qualities and compassion and the memory of her strength, drive and too short life.

Let's remember what her life was about and get off the one aspect too many want to keep discussing.

[boston bean]

1. She wrote a book about it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

27. +1

[niyad]

2. "revere"? sorry, I don't revere mortals.

[HardWorkingDem]

9. ..."to be in awe of and respect deeply; venerate"...guess I'm missing something...

thanks for the reply....

[Orrex]

31. Not even Paul? What about the Raiders?

[blondeatlast]

32. Hey, I still dig 'em! Saw them last year--awesome show. nt

[niyad]

36. nah, once you have been drinking with them, it's kind of hard to venerate them

seriously, I do enjoy their music, always have.

[WinkyDink]

3. Who's discussing HER life? Or is HER life the same as John's?

[notadmblnd]

4. What are you talking about?

I did a search on Elizabeth Edwards OP here at DU and there is no abundance of posts. Those I did see, were expressions of sympathy. No one here is speaking about her or her in derogatory tones in regards to her personal life.

This happens too often here at DU. People making a big deal out of nothing. Is it just to stir up trouble and cause controversy? What is your agenda coming here and making a blanket accusation against the mostly good people here at DU?

[HardWorkingDem]

6. Then do a better search...

Because over the last couple of days there have been plenty about her marriage and her husband. Instead of discussing that aspect, let's discuss something like what her illness can mean to quality health care or fighting on for what we believe through her memory. Things like that and get away from the current ones.

And what is with the "agenda" crap? My issue is that I think it is pretty well established that Elizabeth Edwards was well cared for at DU and I doubt these types of postings are what she would have liked to have seen continue on (wills, rumor of engagement, et cetera).

[notadmblnd]

10. No, I do not need to do a better search. You need to post evidence

when you're making accusations against a group of people. I'll say it again, I have seen no derogatory post in regards to Ms. Edwards and her personal life.

The rumor of the pending engagement in regards to Mr. Edward's life, is just that. A rumor. Two, it has nothing to do with Elizabeth Edwards. They were divorced and their lives were separate when she passed. So why are you coming here and creating an issue when none exists?

[HardWorkingDem]

13. I'm not going to waste time...

doing a bunch of links to current and past OPs dealing with the idiotic stories of whether or not someone is engaged, left in a will, moving on or so on.

If you have not seen the posts then you haven't been paying attention.

As for creating an issue....I would much rather see people at DU discussing things like end of life issues or quality of life issues rather than what I just listed above.

As for this "group" of people - I see DU as an extended family and believe we are all linked together and we are a sort of sum of our parts and believe the ongoing gossip watch on her marriage is not something she would have cared for.

It's time to move on and let her ex be exiled to where ever and quit blathering about that aspect.

[notadmblnd]

15. Yet you're perfectly willing to waste time stirring up controversy where none exists

Go figure:shrug:

[elocs]

18. Perhaps since you are unwilling to defend your OP with links and proof

we shouldn't waste our time reading your words. I think with your "I'm not going to waste time..." post that you just lost your point.

Generally you can find that for which you are looking and you cannot force people to bend to your opinion and point of view. Generally it's not a good idea to tell DUers what they should or shouldn't do because it's not well met.

[HardWorkingDem]

21. Sigh....

Can't help it if you can't read the OPs in the discussion groups. I for one am not going to link to them and add any more attention to them.

They are there.

And I'm not here to win points or play games.

[elocs]

25. Sigh all you want. You make a point, but you won't defend it with proof.

Either it's not really that important to you, or you are too lazy to provide any links or proof.

[HardWorkingDem]

26. Let's take out the crayons....

Okay...here you go...

Go to the Home page....look around....

Go to the Gen Discussion page...look around...

There's probably a few in the Gen Dis Pres page, too.

They are there and I'm not going to link to an idiotic thread the details whether or not her ex was in a will or not, or whether he is engaged or not or whether his life is moving on or not.

I refuse to give them any more publicity. It's not about being lazy, though it is a waste of time and tough if you have to be spoon fed. I'm not going to do it.

But all this shows me is how keyboardists actually feel toward people they claim to feel one way or another about, just because they can.

[Dappleganger]

30. Why don't you just ignore those threads?

That's what I do with the Palin and Vick threads.

[HardWorkingDem]

35. Probably should...

I'm just flummoxed by how we were visited by this woman when she was alive, but how soon it was forgotten and how often people care to talk about one of the most painful aspects of her life over and over again.

I'd like to see people spend one tenth the amount of time talking about the positive attributes that they do when it comes to the continuing saga her ex.

[Confusious]

38. If you don't

I have to assume you are full of shit.

I don't go on faith. I'm not a fundie.

[leveymg]

5. You're confusing Elizabeth with John, apparently, and DU with somewhere else. eom

[Orrex]

7. I once saw her park her car in the "Visitor" slot even though she was obviously an employee.

Shame!

[lynne]

8. Baloney. She talked quite openly about John's affair -

- so now we're disrespectful if we do the same? Nonsense. How about you just block those threads if they offend your definition of "respect"?

[Little Star]

11. +1

[HardWorkingDem]

12. So it's....

a good thing in her memory to be discussing tawdry Enquirer rumors or if or if not her husband was left out of her will and crap like that just because we can? Is that it?

How is that respect?

If she decided to discuss that aspect of her life when she was alive, then that was her decision. But do you really think she would have enjoyed checking in here at DU and seeing the OPs dredging up the same stuff or the meaningless gossip junk?

[notadmblnd]

14. Don't you think if she was worried about what people say about her EX

husband, then she wouldn't have excluded him? Or is that you think that she was only valid as a human being by way of being married to John Edwards? When people speak of John and his bad behavior in the past, it no longer has nothing to do with the former Ms Edwards.

[boston bean]

16. so true, how does speaking of what a cad John is = disrespecting Elizabeth? nt

[HardWorkingDem]

24. I find it quite sad...

that with the continued focus on her ex, both in the media and here at DU, that her memory will be inexplicably tied to her husband, instead of her life and the quality of her life. THAT is why I'd love to see an end to the continued what he's doing next threads and why I think they are disrespectful toward her.

[lynne]

17. John being out of the will isn't an Enquirer rumor as it was reported -

- absolutely everywhere. If Elizabeth didn't think that John and his philandering was a valid topic for discussion, she wouldn't have talked about it publicly. Not to mention that discussing John and his actions since her death in no way disrespects Elizabeth.

Your sense of "respect" is skewed. If you don't like it, hide the threads. Very simple solution to what you perceive as a problem.

[Rowdyboy]

19. DU has shown great respect to Elizabeth Edwards....its John many of us consider scum....

I adore her but wouldn't piss on John if he was on fire. He is a pathetic, small unworthy asshole.

[The_Commonist]

20. Sorry, Friend... you've lost this round.

You don't get to tell DU what to think, how to behave, or what to discuss.
This place simply does not function that way.
Besides, nobody here is disrespecting EE, and when asked to show evidence, you refuse to do so.

[HardWorkingDem]

22. Not here to win games, rounds or this or that....

And as I typed earlier...the OPs are plentiful in all the most popular DU forums (otherwise why the need for such an OP complaining about them?).

And if you can't understand how it is disrespectful to discuss her will or not or whether her not her ex is engaged ad nauseam instead of just letting him whither in the wilderness, then there's not much else to add.

[TBF]

23. Hint - the posts will die down on this if we let them.

It's not about her anyway - it's about John and his misdeeds (dirty laundry sells). As long as he stays out of the public eye his story will fade as well.

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[pintobean]

34. self delete

[Bluenorthwest]

29. You make many assumptions

Personally, I have been refraining from posting my feelings about some of Elizabeth's actions out of the cultural 'respect the dead' bit. I do not share your view of her, to be honest about it.

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[Spider Jerusalem]

37. I'll just quote Voltaire here:

"One owes respect to the living. To the dead, one owes only the truth."

[Jamastiene]

39. Agreed. K&R

Although I see my Rec left you in negative territory still. I rarely agree with you, but on this, I do. I'm not one to whine about Unrecs, but to see this one Unrec'ced surprises me on DU.

We need to show some respect for Elizabeth Edwards. She was class, grace, dignity, and compassion personified. She deserves nothing less than to be remembered for who SHE was.