TSA defends decision to make 95-year-old cancer patient remove adult diaper for security screening

[Bonobo]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/06/26/2011-06-26_tsa_defends_decision_to_make_95yearold_cancer_patient_remove_adult_diaper_for_se.html?r=news

The Transportation Security Administration doesn't think its agents did anything wrong in asking an elderly woman with cancer to remove her adult diaper during an aiport security screening.

The agency came under fire after Florida woman Jean Weber claimed her 95-year-old mother was forced to take off her diaper for a pat down at the Destin-Fort Walton Beach Airport last weekend.

"It's something I couldn't imagine happening on American soil," Weber told the Northwest Florida Daily News.

"While every person and item must be screened before entering the secure boarding area, TSA works with passengers to resolve security alarms in a respectful and sensitive manner," the agency said in a stement Sunday. "We have reviewed the circumstances involving this screening and determined that our officers acted professionally and according to proper procedure."

[PSPS]

1. Of course they do. The Stasi never makes mistakes.

[DinahMoeHum]

2. Another case of "standing on a cement block to kick a duck's ass"

Pathetic.

[lib2DaBone]

3. The TSA has a blank check from Congress...

Until someone stands up to the Brown Shirt TSA.. it will continue.

You must remember.. the TSA was created under George W. Bush, after his false-flag 911, and his false WMD. (Remember..Colin Powell said they never found any WMD)

The whole "War On Terror" is designed to transfer wealth from the poor to the wealthy. So far... it is working perfectly.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Boys you ever heard of explosive dogs?

They are not precisely a new invention.

There is more... they are EFFECTIVE... but not good for the theater you practice.

Yes I understand your concern... alas it ain't have nothing to do with security...

[Bonobo]

5. Here's a picture of the potential terrorist bomber:

That she and her daughter had to undergo this humiliation so soon before her coming death is a national shame.

[TK421]

7. the shamrock scares the shit out of me...... I don't know about you

[Bonobo]

8. They probably thought she was IRA. nt

[SDuderstadt]

12. I doubt seriously that...

picture has anything at all to do with that story.

[Webster Green]

15. Wow!

You are very shrewd indeed. Keep 'em honest. :rofl:

[SDuderstadt]

24. Yeah...

misinformation is no big deal.

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[Bonobo]

51. Show me the misinformation or keep your accusations of misinformation to yourself. nt

[somone]

6. "Americans recognize and respect the important work we do"

Who's next?

[johnaries]

9. In other news, terrorists turn 8-yr-old girl into bomb.

Reading the article, screeners saw "something suspicious" that triggered the private search. If terrorists won't hesitate to use an 8-year-old girl as a bomb, would they hesitate to use a 95-year-old woman? During the private search, they found that the woman had soiled her diaper and asked her caretaker (daughter) to change her. But the caretaker didn't have a clean diaper.

The daughter kept talking about now embarrassed "she" was. I don't doubt it! First of all, she is discovered allowing her beloved mother to wallow in her own filth in the form of a dirty diaper. Then, when she is asked to clean her mother's filth, it's discovered she does not even have a clean diaper.

Yeah, I'd be embarrassed about that, too.

With my work I fly on a regular basis. Sometimes I go through TSA security 3 times a week. I have never found TSA anything less than professional, and many times very friendly and at times apologetic if something on my person or in my carry-on needed an additional look.

[Bonobo]

10. That's missing the point. nt

[Webster Green]

11. The fascists have obviously got you scared shitless.

Mission accomplished.

Fucking pathetic. :puke:

[hatrack]

14. It must suck to be frightened all the time - like you.

nt

[sabrina 1]

16. So the 'defend the indefensible' talking point for this latest TSA outrage

is to accuse the family of neglecting their beloved 95 year old relative. I've seen it now several times already and it still isn't working, just FYI.

Try to answer this question if you can!

How did this woman manage to live to be 95 years old without the help of Government Uniformed Officials checking her underwear, considering your assessment of her family??

Each time I see this talking point it only angers me more. These are obviously decent people who love this woman, and it was bad enough that she was, at this stage in her life, so abused by her own government, but to add insult to injury her beloved daughter is now being accused of abuse???

It WAS reprehensible, what happened to her. It is equally reprehensible to put this family through further pain with the outrageous charge that they have neglected her. In fact, it's probably actionable and if she were my grandmother, relative, I would do just that.

[Bonobo]

17. Did it occur to anyone that she might have soiled herself as a RESULT of agents bullying?

Seems like a strong possibility to me anyway.

[sabrina 1]

20. Yes, absolutely. It has happened to others traumatized

by these abuses at the airport.

It is also clear that those blaming the victims have never taken care of someone in her condition.

But this is merely a deflection from the fact that no one should be putting their hands on American travellers in this way, period.

Which is why I am hoping that the Texas law, which already passed its legislature by a 100% vote, Dems and Repubs, passes the Senate there. This law specifically describes the molestation of passengers in clear language and makes it illegal for agents to touch any person this way or be subject to the law themselves.

Other states are also preparing legislation to ban these tactics also. So the huge public outrage is getting a response from elected officials. And in Congress there is a bill now restricting these tactics on the Federal level. Not to mention the numerous lawsuits that have been filed.

I think eventually these anti-Constitutional tactics will be outlawed as they should be. They never should have happened in the first place. And of course, it is not about security, it is about money.

[SDuderstadt]

25. The actual facts

While going through security, the 95-year-old was taken by a TSA officer into a glassed-in area,
where a pat-down was performed, Weber said. An agent told Weber "they felt something suspicious on (her mother's) leg and they couldn't determine what it was" -- leading them to take her into a private, closed room. Soon after, Weber said, a TSA agent came out and told her that her mother's Depend undergarment was "wet and it was firm, and they couldn't check it thoroughly." The mother and daughter left to find a bathroom, at the TSA officer's request, to take off the adult diaper .. But she said her mother, a nurse for 65 years, "was very calm" despite being bothered by the fact that she had to go through the airport without underwear ...
TSA stands by officers after pat-down of elderly woman in Florida
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 26, 2011 10:26 p.m. EDT

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/26/florida.tsa.incident

Maybe it would help if you'd stop making shit up and blowing stuff out of proportion.

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[LisaL]

28. And add to that, after the daughter started crying, TSA

decided to pat her down as well. So the mother had to fly alone because the daughter was still being patted down as the plane was about to leave.

[Bonobo]

29. Wow, that is really sick. Truly nazi-like, thuggish behavior. nt

[LisaL]

30. Apparently, TSA thinks crying after pat down of an elderely relative

is a sign a person can be a terrorist.

:sarcasm:

[Dept of Beer]

33. There could be explosives in her tears.

[LisaL]

34. Why didn't I think of that. She could have excedded the allowed

liquid limit.

[Dept of Beer]

32. What do you call someone that sides with the TSA stasi?

[sabrina 1]

35. Thank you! Sometimes I am just too sickened by

what I see on Democratic boards, where I know if this happened under Bush not a single person on this board would be doing anything other than screaming for his head, that I find it difficult to even read them;

That CNN rport actually made the story worse. The woman was forced to go through the airport it says, 'without underwear'.

It is vile for anyone to defend this. Simply vile and sick. And that is my opinion and I don't care what anyone thinks of it. All sense of decency is lost. Terrorists? Who needs them, our government terrifies me.

[LisaL]

37. And her daughter started crying, so TSA decided to pat

the daughter down as well.

[SDuderstadt]

38. "The woman was forced to go through the airport it says, 'without underwear'"

And, why is that, Sabrina?

[Bonobo]

40. SDuderstadt, you think checking her diaper fully means other than opening it?

[SDuderstadt]

43. I fucking give up n/t

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[pecwae]

48. Good.

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[SDuderstadt]

36. "You just quoted a report that said that they made a 95 year old, wheelchair bound leukemia...

patient show what was inside her diapers".

There is absolutely nothing like that in the article.

Beyond that, I have absolutely nothing to say to you, dude.

[Bonobo]

39. Apparently you didn't read what you posted. So I will help.

"a TSA agent came out and told her that her mother's Depend undergarment was "wet and it was firm, and they couldn't check it thoroughly.""

What do you think that means, dude?

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[LisaL]

44. TSA admits that an officer shouldn't be asking passengers

to remove adult diapers. Yet they defend this as "proper." What exactly was so proper about this?

"The TSA said in a statement to Fox News that at "no instance" would an officer ask a passenger to remove an adult diaper."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/26/dying-woman-undergoes-additional-tsa-security-screening-says-family/#ixzz1QS80VxY6

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[jberryhill]

49. It means the daughter didn't have any extras, and that it needed changing

That's what seems to be at the center of this thing.

[Bonobo]

50. If you think that's the important issue here, I suggest you give it another thought.

That's the distraction from the issue.

The issue here is asking an old dying woman to undergo such an shameful patting down that it required them to squeeze he diapers so much that they realized they were full.

Try to imagine your dying grandmother having her crotch and ass so squeezed and fondled that the contents of them were knowable to a guy in a TSA uniform.

I mean --really TRY to imagine it.

Old, dying, tired, wheezing, embarrassed, frightened...

This is a human being. One who has earned the right to have some dignity.

This is NOT what we want in this country, is it? Is this how you grew up? Is this how you want our children to grow up?

It is NOT an issue of whether this woman had a change of diapers.

[jberryhill]

53. Actually, you're only getting one side of the story

And while you are free to make up your mind on that basis, it seems perfectly reasonable for the TSA to have noticed that it needed changing, and to tell the daughter that.

It is also pretty normal for people to go after others when confronted with a problem they have caused.

But what is really irritating are your incessant judgments of others with whom you interact.

[Bonobo]

56. Now THAT is a judgment on me, so I think it's pretty funny. nt

[Bonobo]

41. Nothing in there proves that you didn't wet herself as a result of the pat down. nt

[pipi_k]

57. It would be a possibility, except for one thing

I've had experience with Depends.

It takes a LOT of urine to fill them to the point where someone checking back (above buttocks) and front (lower abdomen) would feel something hard.

She would have to be wearing that thing at least two hours...if not longer...for it to be filled with so much urine a TSA agent who felt around waist and small of back detected something strange.

[LAGC]

21. What's stopping a terrorist from hiding a bomb in an oriface?

What's next? Full body cavity searches? Make 8-year-old Johnny strip naked and bend over and cough?

When do we put our foot down and say "enough is enough?"

[Tumbulu]

22. I am with you

I did not fly for awhile after reading all these TSA reports. I started flying again and have been impressed so far with how polite the TSA people have been to me and my daughter.

I get the idea that these events get blown out of proportion by wrong wingers. And then we fall into their trap.

[Mojorabbit]

23. self delete

[Dept of Beer]

27. Ummm....

BOOOOO!

[Union Scribe]

54. And we need to torture Mohammed to make him give up the nuke location!!!

Feed us some more Bush talking points, why don't ya.

[Webster Green]

13. The land of the weak, and the home of the slave.

What a cowardly shit-hole we now live in. I hate this fucking country.

[Missy Vixen]

18. I hate to break this to everyone here

The only way this shit will stop, once and for all, is when a celebrity's identifiable nude image is captured via backscatter scanner, disseminated to the public by "accident", and it's someone famous enough that the current administration can't ignore it.

Snaps to Nadin for mentioning the explosives dogs.

I'm flying on Tuesday. I hate flying enough as it is.

:eyes:

[CelticThunder]

19. Are there really any Republican celebrities of that magnitude?

[Iggo]

47. My nation is a fucking coward. (n/t)

[Le Taz Hot]

52. "We have investigated ourselves and have found

ourselves innocent of all charges." Yeah, the Pentagon does that too. :eyes: