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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 12:03 PM
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It's Not Like We Weren't Warned... 'Obama's Admiration of Ronald Reagan' - OpenLeft
Obama's Admiration of Ronald Reagan
by: Matt Stoller
Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 15:41

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The video clip above is Barack Obama explaining his admiration of Ronald Reagan. I've transcribed it here.

I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure. I think part of what's different are the times. I do think that for example the 1980 was different. I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like with all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s and government had grown and grown but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think people, he just tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing.


There are many reason progressives should admire Ronald Reagan, politically speaking. He realigned the country around his vision, he brought into power a new movement that created conservative change, and he was an extremely skilled politician. But that is not why Obama admires Reagan. Obama admires Reagan because he agrees with Reagan's basic frame that the 1960s and 1970s were full of 'excesses' and that government had grown large and unaccountable.

Those excesses, of course, were feminism, the consumer rights movement, the civil rights movement, the environmental movement, and the antiwar movement. The libertarian anti-government ideology of an unaccountable large liberal government was designed by ideological conservatives to take advantage of the backlash against these 'excesses'.

It is extremely disturbing to hear, not that Obama admires Reagan, but why he does so.
Reagan was not a sunny optimist pushing dynamic entrepreneurship, but a savvy politician using a civil rights backlash to catapult conservatives to power. Lots of people don't agree with this, of course, since it doesn't fit a coherent narrative of GOP ascendancy. Masking Reagan's true political underpinning principles is a central goal of the conservative movement, with someone as powerful as Grover Norquist seeking to put Reagan's name on as many monuments as possible and the Republican candidates themselves using Reagan's name instead of George Bush's in GOP debates as a mark of greatness. Why would the conservative movement create such idolatry around Reagan? Is is because they just want to honor a great man? Perhaps that is some of it. Or are they trying to escape the legacy of the conservative movement so that it can be rebuilt in a few years, as they did after Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I?

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More (w/Video): http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3263

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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 12:08 PM
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1. He also said he didn't agree with many of the policies, just that he saw Reagan as effective.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 12:13 PM
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2. But you have to admit...
you cannot justify constant Obama bashing if you acknowledge that, now, can you?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 12:13 PM
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3. they both make great actors nt
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 12:26 PM
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5. Don't they, though.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 12:22 PM
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4. reagan was a front man for the boys in the basement...
is that why obama is impressed with ronny? ronny was a suck up to the rich when he was a kid and later in life it paid off--he became president.

he was a democrat but as soon as nancy performed her magic old ronny saw the light.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 01:41 PM
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6. Raygun was effective because he was dealing with Democrats who
were trying. Obama is not going to be effective using bipartisan methods because he is dealing with a conscienceless repug party. Bipartisan only works if both sides are trying to do the best they can for the whole nation.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 02:08 PM
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7. I took that warning seriously at the time.
It's why I didn't support him.

I was right.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 02:10 PM
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8. He is only describing history of that era as he sees it
One can admire someone one does not agree with, for their effectiveness, personal characteristics. Nonstop hatred of everyone one does not agree with is not everyone's method of dealing with disagreement.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 02:10 PM
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9. "Those excesses, of course, were..."
Did Obama actually say that, or did the author of this article just imagine it?
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