Dem. Rep. Giffords shot in Tucson

[DesertRat]

Just heard on local NPR radio station. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and 12 others were just shot at an outside event in Tucson, AZ. Gunman was caught.
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona

[RegieRocker]

1. Oh oh

[Horse with no Name]

2. Expect more of this

How very sad. I hope he and his staffers are okay.

[Rage for Order]

48. Why should we expect more of this?

Do you know something that law enforcement does not?

[Horse with no Name]

53. Hate radio, teabaggers, rabid republicans

have been whipping their base into a frenzy.
Encouraging them to "exercise their 2nd amendment rights".

What exactly do you think happens when you pour gasoline on a fire?
It ignites...does it not?

[Rage for Order]

57. The same predictions were made shortly after the election in 2008

Is this just a delayed reaction from 2 years ago?

[Lex]

61. Maybe just a reaction from recent rhetoric? nt

[Lex]

55. Gun-toting repukes stirred up by Rush, Palin, Beck.

That's why. But I have no idea who did it. I just know who (tea-baggers) the gun lovin, Dem haters are and who they listen to routinely.

Could also be a random nut with a gun.

[Horse with no Name]

59. I think the OP is being deliberately obtuse. n/t

[WillyT]

82. THAT Person Has Been "Deleted Message" A Whole Bunch...

:shrug:

[Rage for Order]

60. The same thing was said during the tea bagger rallies over the summer

Why did they wait 6 months?

[Lex]

62. Maybe just as likely from recent rhetoric too.

Not from something 6 months ago.

[Dappleganger]

67. Because that is their mentality--lose the vote, invoke their "2nd Amendment solution."

And this is one reason why I have my ccw and train regularly. These folks are dead serious.

[Rage for Order]

78. But they just won the vote

Republicans gained 63 seats in the House and 6 seats in the Senate

:shrug:

[Lex]

79. And Sarah Palin has crosshairs on Rep. Gifford.

[Rage for Order]

86. It may have been a political assassination...

Inspired by Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, or someone else of their ilk. It certainly isn't far-fetched, but it's a bit early to conclusively proclaim this to be the case. I'll at least wait until the police release some form of statement regarding the shooter and his apparent motives.

[Lex]

89. It's pretty clear that at this point it's mere speculation.

So thanks for clearing that up.

[Justitia]

90. OMG, that graphic makes my blood run cold. Palin needs to be held accountable. -eom

[blondeatlast]

105. + no permit needed for concealed carry now... I hate this place, even when

I adore the desert. Siiiigh...

[Ptah]

3. OMG

http://tucsoncitizen.com/three-sonorans/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-head-in-tucson/

US Congresswoman Gabby Giffords from Tucson has just been shot point blank in the head on the north side of Tucson. No word on if she survived.

More as it develops…

[boston bean]

5. oh god...

[jaxx]

4. Are they going to survive?

What a terrible thing to happen.

[MH1]

6. Tuscon Citizen says shot in head at point blank range :(

http://tucsoncitizen.com/three-sonorans/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-head-in-tucson/

[Cowpunk]

21. Their website's obviously getting slammed

Link is dead.

[toddwv]

33. That link won't load

I'm guessing that it's overloaded right now because I haven't seen this story on the major news sites yet.

Info is still pretty sketchy...

[DesertRat]

46. On NPR and Huffington Post now

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shot-c_n_806211.html

[Trajan]

7. Yikes ....

Not good ....

Citizens consumed with their hatreds, fueled by right wing talk media ....

[MineralMan]

8. Very bad news. I hope we find out more soon.

I can't get to the link...they're probably overwhelmed.

[MH1]

9. NPR link

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona

[DesertRat]

14. Thanks for the link, I updated my post

The teabaggers HATE her. I am so upset right now.........

[Crystal Clarity]

54. Could that have something to do with it?

Does anyone know more as to who the shooter is? A Beck-type maybe? This is very disturbing.

[Cowpunk]

10. Just read her Wikipedia biography

An Arizona Blue Dog who supports both gun rights and abortion rights. Might be a bad combination.

[proud2BlibKansan]

75. She still didn't deserve to be shot

Honestly, I don't care what her politics are or what party she belongs to. This is just horrible.

[Dennis Donovan]

11. Holy SHIT! OMG!!!

http://tucsoncitizen.com/three-sonorans/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-head-in-tucson/

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona

[villager]

12. ALL RIGHT DEMOCRATS ARE YOU TAKING THIS SHIT SERIOUSLY YET!!?

Yes, I'm shouting.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. Oh. God.

[reggie the dog]

15. WHY ARE SO MANY DEMOCRATS AND SO FEW REPUBLICANS

MURDERED????

[EFerrari]

18. Because the Democratic party isn't a hate group like the Republicans are. n/t

[reggie the dog]

52. ah

yeah i guess i overlooked the nose on my face on that one

[EFerrari]

65. Somebody said that as a joke here the other day.

But the more I think about it, the more true it seems to me. The Republicans have been actively stirring up hatred for years now. They deserve the title.

[jwirr]

103. My sociology professor said that in 1972. And it has been true even

before that. I am so upset. What are these people with their hate expecting to accomplish?

[SheilaT]

116. Back in 1963 my English teacher

made a remark about it was only the liberals who were assassinated in this country. THAT was prescience.

[young_at_heart]

71. He hated liberals and gays----a church in Tennessee was his target

Motivated by a desire to kill liberals and Democrats, the shooting started as about 200 people watched 25 children perform a show based on the musical "Annie", killing two people and wounding seven others.

"He did express frustration that the liberal movement was getting more jobs,"

[EFerrari]

77. What are you quoting?

[young_at_heart]

117. Responding to the "hate group" comment in #18

I live in NC not far from Knoxville so this was big news here when it happened. A guy who was a big fan of Fox News, etc. wanted to kill Democrats (those hated libruls)because he thought they were ruining America so he went to a church in Knoxville that had a liberal leaning and opened fire in front of 200 people (many of whom were children). One member of the church saved many lives (he lost his) by tackling him to the ground. He was a Republican!

[EFerrari]

118. Thanks. I was confused. nt

[guruoo]

16. Looks like the war has begun nt

[RagAss]

17. Nothing on CNN yet

[RagAss]

19. Keep THIS KICKED

[eyeofdelphi]

20. holy shit!

i had a class at the community college with her father like 2 years ago. oh my god! i hope she somehow survives, but it is being reported as point blank range. she was outside a freakin grocery store for fuck's sake! what if a kid got hit. i'm so glad we moved, it's just getting crazier there.

[Dappleganger]

22. OMG!!

These people have really lost it, folks!!

[CTyankee]

23. "The Second Amendment Remedy"

This is why this kind of talk is so toxic...Sharron Angle must be smiling...

[ClassWarrior]

25. Sharron Angle must be smiling.

:sigh:

NGU.

[mzmolly]

24. "Second amendment remedies" ... "reload"

Just innocent rhetoric.

[Rockholm]

32. They have blood on their hands.

Was it palin that said that?

[mzmolly]

81. Angle said "Second Amendment remedies" and Palin said "don't retreat, reload."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008180070

Palin also had a list naming Giffords as a target, while using a cross hairs symbol to suggest she should be "taken out".

http://www.nationalreview.com/media-blog/29117/palins-target-list/greg-pollowitz

[DoBotherMe]

26. kick

[jaxx]

27. Anyone getting through to the AZ sites, please post the info.

This is so awful. The nuts are loose and it's scary.

[Dennis Donovan]

34. Here's another local source:

http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=13807677

[jaxx]

43. Thank you.

This makes me sick to my stomach. The evil people do.

[DesertRat]

66. link from Phoenix:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/08/20110108giffords-shooting.html

[jaxx]

76. Thanks. CNN saying the shooter is not caught.

They have an eye witness on now. Watch it on http://www.justin.tv/news_stream#/w/734107120/14

He is saying there are 2-3 bodies on the ground.

[DesertRat]

87. Now CNN says shooter was caught.

Still early in the investigation.

[jaxx]

91. Yes, just heard that. So much misinformation when it's just happening.

I hope she will live. It's sad.

[blondeatlast]

108. AZ Republic site link below--loaded right up for me. nt

[suston96]

28. CNN News

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/08/several-people-shot-at-arizona-store-police-official-says/

[ClassWarrior]

36. Here's a "Breaking News" segment. I'm guessing they didn't think they had solid info till now.

NGU.

[11 Bravo]

41. Sad, but FoxNews is the only network that's all over it.

[DesertRat]

51. On CNN and MSNBC now

[FrancisTreptoe]

29. This is incredibly tragic

I guess if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened! :sarcasm:

[hlthe2b]

30. AND MSNBC has its usual canned jail programming...

Damn...

Hoping for a miracle ......

[WillyT]

31. WTF !!! - Keeping Kicked !!!

:kick:

[Lint Head]

35. Nothing at all on national broadcast networks! Typical.

[WillyT]

37. CNN Just Did A Quick Spot

:shrug:

[Dappleganger]

38. Sadly, Fox News has it on right now.

[MineralMan]

39. It does take a little time, you know...

Someone always says what you said. Of course the national networks will cover this. They don't have the story yet. Shortly, they will.

[ClassWarrior]

45. And they need to check sources. We get pissed when they don't, yet complain...

...when it's not instantaneous.

NGU.

[MineralMan]

49. Every story begins as a local story. It takes time to get it on

national news. People just don't realize that, I guess.

[EFerrari]

93. Fox had JD Hayworth on as a source.

Oh, geeze.

[DesertRat]

63. On MSNBC now

[sixmile]

40. I hope this is 100% false

My prayers to all involved.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shot-c_n_806211.html

[mzmolly]

83. Unfortunately, it's not false. She's probably deceased and authorities are waiting

to notify family to report officially. :(

[Dennis Donovan]

42. To put this into a perspective...

If,God forbid, Rep Giffords doesn't survive, she will be only the second US Rep to die in the line of duty (Rep Leo Ryan was the first - at Jonestown in 1978).

Holy shit...

[DesertRat]

44. On Fox News now

[Vinca]

47. HuffPo reported she was shot in the head. OMG.

[cali]

58. point blank in the head. Just fuck.

[boston bean]

69. npr reporting same

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona

[DesertRat]

88. Live Updates on HuffPo

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shot-c_n_806211.html

[jaxx]

50. CNN saying 12 were injured.

[GSLevel9]

56. if it is a Mexican cartel shooter, I expect this could get uncomfortable.

My first thought was a 'bagger but she's a blue-dog, supports guns and border enforcement including National Guard at the border...

Might be a cartel shooter...

Prayers with Gabrielle.

[MineralMan]

64. Speculating on who the shooter is is worthless.

We'll find out soon enough. Then we can discuss it.

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[DesertRat]

74. The teabaggers HATE Giffords

She was one of the targets on Palin's crosshairs post.

[EFerrari]

102. This tweet from Politico

GregMitch Greg Mitchell
RT @benpolitico Shooter: "young, mid-to-late 20s, white clean-shaven w short hair & dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting"

[Desertrose]

72. Oh No!!!!! I am blaiming Brewer and her crazies for this....

it may not be fair or even right, but her brand of insanity fires up the already abundant number of whack jobs in this state. If it's not a political crazy in this case, it's only a matter of time.

Poor Rep Giffords...am sending prayers & light her way. Point blank in the head....oh dear......

[AngryAmish]

73. Another teabagger terrorist

[suffragette]

80. Giffords was one of the Democrats Palin's PAC "targeted"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/sarah-palins-pac-puts-gun_n_511433.html

Sarah Palin's PAC Puts Gun Sights On Democrats She's Targeting In 2010


Sarah Palin is targeting -- yes, with gun sights -- House Democrats facing tough reelection fights who voted for health care reform.

Palin's Facebook page now carries a map featuring 20 gun sights, one for each of the Democrats targeted this year by her political action committee SarahPAC. Three of the gun sights, those where incumbent Democrats have already announced their retirement, are colored red.

[Justitia]

94. That graphic literally makes me feel like I'm going to throw up. Palin signed it, a death warrant.

I could be physically sick.

[suffragette]

101. And Palin deliberately used similar language on Facebook

From the same article at HUffPO:
Likewise, Palin's rhetoric is decidedly militant. "We'll aim for these races and many others," she wrote on her Facebook page. "This is just the first salvo in a fight to elect people across the nation who will bring common sense to Washington. Please go to sarahpac.com and join me in the fight."


Agree with your comments on it.
Sickening.

[EFerrari]

104. Horrible and we were right to protest that cr@p.

She was so young. Tragedy.

[suffragette]

109. Tragic

And, yes, so important to stand up against that hate.

And now she's become a victim of it.

Also, see boston bean's post below about her office being vandalized and other Democrats being threatened, even to the point of Rep. Tom Perriello's brother's propane gas line being severed. Note Perriello was listed on that graphic as a target, too.

[tandot]

110. This deserves its own post. People have to see what their hate speech is doing

[Texasgal]

84. What a horrible event.

This is just terrible.

I hope she will be okay.

[northernlights]

85. CNN says at least 12 injured

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

[boston bean]

92. Her office was vandalized during HCR debate back in march

along with 10 other DEMS.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/24/AR2010032402122.html

[DesertRat]

95. kick

[suffragette]

111. This is worth an OP

to show the pattern of behavior involved.
At least two of the of the Representatives in this article were also on Palin's "target" map - Giffords and Perriello.


Damage caused by vandalism at the office of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.). (Courtesy of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords)

Over the next 24 hours, thrown bricks shattered the glass doors and windows of party headquarters from Rochester, N.Y., to Cincinnati. A propane gas line at the Charlottesville home of Rep. Tom Perriello's brother was severed Tuesday after a self-identified "tea party" activist posted what he believed to be the Virginia Democrat's address on a Web site and urged opponents to "drop by" to convey their opposition to his yes vote on the health bill.

[Vinca]

96. Just confirming 4 people have died.

[bobthedrummer]

97. K&R, there are no coincidences nor does the "lone nut" patented "answer" apply n/t

[nmbluesky]

98. According to MSNBC

6 dead and 12 injury

unknown about congresswoman..

Shooter in custody..

unknown in motive yet..

[reggie the dog]

113. yes the got the bastard!

now he can be interrogated and fucking waterboarded right?,,

[MineralMan]

99. KOLD: Giffords dead.

Just announced on live feed.

[Thunderstruck]

100. UPDATE: Hospital reporting Rep. Giffords NOT DEAD... CONFLICTING REPORTS...

It had been reported by Fox News and MSNBC that Rep. Giffords had died. UMC is now reporting that she has not died and that she is currently in surgery.

Please pray for her or send your positive energy her way.

It really sucks my first post is about this.

Tragic.

Sarah Palin, this is on you.

[NotThisTime]

106. 40 years old... my thoughts go out to her family and to the other family's involved...

[suffragette]

112. Thank you for the updates

and, in the midst of this tragedy, welcome to DU.

[Thunderstruck]

115. Thanks for the welcome, suffragette, though I hate that this the way I make my DU debut. Tragic. n/t

[blondeatlast]

107. Tucson paper's site is unreachable; here's link to Arizona Republic's

coverage:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/08/20110108arizona-giffords-brk.html

[trayNTP]

114. SECOND AMENDMENT REMEDIES

Waste no opportunity to point out the Republicans' threats of "2nd Amendment remedies", or how those types of acts do nothing more than turn the United States into present-day Iraq & Afghanistan.

[Odin2005]

119. Teabaggers are TERRORISTS.